Eye, No doubt, there are many people in SV who didn’t go to Stanford and Berkeley. Those schools do, however, send many grads to CA tech companies. In MI, you can’t swing a cat at one of the Big Three (does Stellantis count?) without hitting a UofM or MSU alum. At GM, much of the senior management, starting with the CEO, are GMI/Kettering alumni. In contrast, after getting her masters from U of Chicago, my sister was asked by an interviewer at a SV startup if UofC was part of the IL state university system, like Northern Illinois. My point is that students should keep in mind where they might want to land after graduation and have that factor into their school choice.
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Moral of the story is use only data directly from colleges, not data from inaccurate third party aggregators.
Sure, but still a reach. Posters were reacting to you calling UIUC a safety for engineering and CS. Further if OP missed UIUC’s EA deadline, the acceptance rate in some Grainger majors is zero or close to it in RD, as some of those majors majors fill up in EA.
Like I said, my numbers reflect COA for OOS students.
Depends on the definition of “Big Three”. If it means the three biggest car companies with a large presence in Michigan, then Stellanis probably counts. If it means the three biggest US-based car companies, then Stellantis does not count (Tesla would take its place now).
But probably the point is that, for many companies, recruiting at local or regional universities is relatively convenient, and yield of offers may be higher at local or regional universities. Note that for Silicon Valley, there are other universities like SJSU, UCSC, and SCU that are relatively nearby, although SJSU’s location means that the CS major is far more selective (4.35 recalculated HS GPA threshold last cycle) than most majors there (many had ~2.6 recalculated HS GPA thresholds last cycle).
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I was under the same impression until reading “Who Gets in and Why” by Jeffrey Selling. Highly, highly recommend, you’ll learn about “buyers” vs “sellers” in college admissions.
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Selingo (darn autocorrect)
I assume based on the COA dollar amounts you quoted, that it means all-in cost (tuition, room/board, fees, etc., etc.). For my edification, what does COA stand for?
You make a good point that among top 10 - or even top 20 - engineering schools nothing is a “safety”. In the current crazy college admissions climate with highly ranked schools becoming hyper competitive and next level schools turning away well qualified students to protect their yields, I am not sure that the concept of “safety” applies as it did in the dark ages when I went to college. My point - which some here seem compelled to push back on - is that it is easier to get into UIUC than Cornell, MIT, CMU, Duke, etc.
Cost of attendance
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I certainly think that’s true. The question is, would it still be a reach. Probably, by the classic definitions.
Based on what I see so far, quite a few Asian students were accepted by UIUC in the recent years in our high school and they were not very top in the school. But they do have pretty decent SAT (1530 or above) and good GPA
UIUC does not consider class rank at all, so it doesn’t matter how the students compared to the rest of their school, just how they compared to the rest of the applicants.
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