<p>I really wanna go to nu, so i wanted to apply binding ed. but bc of financial aid i think ill just go with regular sooo bc of that i wanna also apply for hpme! could ppl give me an accurate as possible perception of whether or not i can make nu rd or hpme? preferrably if you are in hpme or know ppl that are but anyone please!</p>
<p>act:35
writing:10 (got those scores twice)
sat 2 bio: 760
sat 2 chem: 780
sat 2 math 2: 800
unweighted gpa: 3.913
weighted gpa: 4.380
already taken ap classes: ap bio, ap chem, ap lang, ap stats
ive gotten 5's on all those 4 ap tests
ap classes taking this year: ap lit, ap physics b, ap calc bc, ap spanish v, ap macro
school clubs:
student council class rep (soph, junior, senior)
first class leader (soph, junior, senior)
NHS (junior, senior)
math team (soph, junior, senior) AWARDS: 9th individual soph year for geometry, 2nd team soph year, 4th team junior year
volleyball (fresh)
xc (junior)
track (fresh, soph, junior)
jazz strings (junior, senior)
solo and ensemble (fresh)
out of school/volunteering work:
hospital work about 110 hours
church worship team as singer fresh and soph year
2 mission trips with church for 4 days to nebraska and michigan
IMEA all-state and district (youth orchestra kinda for school)
Chicago Youth Symphony Orchestra (fresh and soph- concert orchestra i was concertmaster in sophomore year; junior and senior year- symphony orchestra)
past summer i volunteered at a research lab connected to the boston children's hospital helping out with my mentor who was trying to publish a paper about specialized neutrophil killing mechanisms: about 330 hours</p>
<p>if i've left off any important info please let me know and ill tell you!
thanks so much! please just give me an accurate estimation of whether i can get in rd, or get the hpme app/interview? its okay if your harsh i just need a good idea please!</p>
<p>NU has a very high percentage of need met. So you should not hesitate from apply ED because of financial reason as long as you know you can afford the out of pocket cost (use their calculator) and are sure that is the school you absolutely want to go. Nevertheless, if you want to compare financial aids from different schools before making final decision, or there are other schools that you also have them on the top of list, then you should do RD.</p>
<p>You should post this in the chance forum instead.</p>
<p>well i did the calculator thing that they have and it was about 40 thousand a year…saying i find my own living place and try to budget itll be around 30 thousand so i’m not sure i could pay that (with parents too?) i’m just afraid that i wont get into rd with these stats do you have any idea?</p>
<p>Of course you can’t pay $30-40K yourself. Before you waste more of your time, sit down with your parents and have a frank discussion of the calculator results. If your parents do not feel that they can or would be willing to pay the calculated amount, then you are wasting your time on a dream that cannot be. There are very good schools, that are not NU or Ivy, that would love to give you a full tuition scholarship and possibly room and board. Focus on those schools that grant merit aid in that case. An admission to NU without the interest on your parents to pay the excess over calculated need is as valuable as a rejection.</p>
<p>well my parents said they were willing but personally i just dont want to have them pay that much…maybe just 10 thousand or 15? at most? what would be some of those schools do you think that i would be able to get into and with more scholarships to offer?</p>
<p>If your parents are financially able to pay more than you would like to see them spend, then you are going to require a merit non-need based scholarship. This rules out all the Ivy schools and some of the more competitive schools to which someone with your stats would typically apply. You need to sit down with your parents and discuss your plans and concerns now before you go any farther looking at schools. If they can afford to pay most or all of your full bill and want to do so, they may prefer you not “count their money” and worry about their paying too much. Maybe they would prefer you to be with peers at a more selective school than take a merit scholarship at a lower tier school where you are being “bought” to improve their stats. On the other hand they might prefer you to go to the least expensive option you can find. Your application strategy will be totally different in these two scenarios. If you want merit scholarship options, go to the “Financial Aid” section of this site and particularly look at the following sticky threads:</p>
<p>It would be impossible to save 10k because you are living by yourself. Room and board is 13k which means you are talking about living on 3k over the year.</p>
<p>from your own experiences and or of friends, do you think its worth it to have parents pay/student debts of about 75 thousand after undergrad? and perhaps double that after med school? bc i mean if i do actually end up as a doctor bc i know for sure thats what i wanna do, well i would be earning enough to pay that in about 5 years or 10 at most? i would think at least?</p>
<p>Medical school costs a lot more than undergrad. NW medical school may not offer much FA (I heard something like 6k?). So it would be a LOT more than 75k at the end of 7 or 8 years.</p>
<p>If you are an Illinois resident, the cheaper option is to go a State school followed by State Medical school if money is a primary concern.</p>
<p>i think my parents care more about a good education rather than the money i think its just that i have a little guilty conscience? is it possible to pay off like 150 thousand in debt? within 10 years?</p>
<p>This is the problem. Resolve this uncertainty before you go any further. Furthermore, there is no question that you can get a “good” education at a less expensive place than Northwestern. You don’t need to take on 75K in debt to get a “good” education that prepares you for medical school. The NU degree would be nice to have, a beautiful location and campus, surrounded by some of the most select peers of your applicant pool, etc. It is somewhat like choosing a Mercedes knowing a Ford can do the job just fine. Plenty of people who could drive a Mercedes drive a Ford because they have other plans for their money like early retirement, expensive vacations, throwing big weddings or what not. As I said before, only your parents can tell you if they can fund your NU dream. As for paying off loans as a doctor, under the current income levels of doctors a $150K should be no problem. Some end up owing more and feel a crushing debt burden or feel a need to choose a higher paying specialty. No one knows what reimbursements will look like a 12-15 years from now when the Class of 2018 completes post-graduate training so that loan amount might be more of an issue then once you compound all the interest.</p>
<p>well for sure my parents want me to go to a college ranked top 20 mainly bc of i guess the ppl there that shape you bc you surround yourself with them? does that kinda make sense? and having a good undergrad degree sets me up for the challenges of medical school? if this were you, what would you choose to do?</p>
<p>oh also i mean i guess i could tell you my list of colleges, but most of the ones im applying to are private schools, so is it true the money would be close to the same? and public schools not in illinois dont give that much?</p>
<p>YalegradandDad and I are parents and we may have specific opinions about what we would do with our kids. However, every parent is different and we can’t speak for your parents.</p>
<p>I am not sure where you are getting 150k in debt. I expect it to be a lot higher unless your parents are paying some of your med school costs.</p>
<p>thats true
so you think more than 150 in debt? i mean they would pay like 10 to 15 thousand each year? so like maybe a third of expenses? they said they could pay all, but i wont let them</p>
<p>(1) Find out what your parents can actually pay. Find out either (a) the total amount they can afford or (b) how much they can afford each year for the next 10+ years.</p>
<p>Once you’ve done both those things, you can decide if you should let your parents pay for undergrad, or if you’d rather save their money for med school. If you don’t want them to pay for undergrad, then take the “prestige” schools off your list, and focus on schools where you’d be eligible for significant merit aid.</p>
<p>wow…
i had no idea the amount of debt…
but honestly though unless i read wrong at the end they do conclude that its worth it at the end bc of the salary doctors get when paying off their debts? right?</p>
<p>(1) The primary criteria for admission to med school are a good GPA and a good MCAT score. Doesn’t so much matter where you do your undergrad. Attending a state school certainly won’t hinder you!</p>
<p>(2) Physician salaries? Expect them to drop (steadily) as the country moves closer and closer to socialized medicine. You certainly won’t be earning the same amount 12+ years from now as you’d be earning if you graduated today. Whether or not it’s worth it is up to you . . . but with med school costs rising, and salaries falling, medicine is not the career to pursue if you’re hoping for a life of leisure anytime soon.</p>
<p>is it possible to find like the average gpa for northwestern? or any school for that matter? its just that i know ppl that go to uchicago but end up going to ohio state for med school. not that its bad, just that they went from a TOP school to a soso med school?
…but theres actually a need for primary care doctors though? isnt there?</p>