Chance super competitive Ivy League Applicant! Will chance back!

<p>@ckoepp127‌ Dunno. I don’t ask my parents that kind of stuff, but I don’t qualify for financial aid.</p>

<p>I mean that could be good or bad I guess. Sometimes having lots of money is attractive because it signifies a potential beneficiary? On the other hand, it shows signs of “privilege” that may be unattractive to some admissions officers.</p>

<p>@bluberaptor Why did you even post on here? To show off how “great” of a college applicant you are? Because if you didn’t want people to give you their truthful opinion, you shouldn’t have came on here. Just because you may not be happy that a two week internship doesn’t make you a 100% match at these schools doesn’t give you the right to argue with someone trying to help you. Maybe you thought you were more of a “super competitive” applicant than you actually are.</p>

<p>@greenman46 Hah damn dude harsh. But yeah I would be wary of expecting to be accepted at these ivy league schools. A 2 week internship is no guarantee of anything, especially considering lack of other ECs.</p>

<p>@greenman46‌ No I did not post here to show off how “Great” of a college applicant I am. Stop coming to false conclusions. I simply asked why people had those opinions. I never, for one second, believed that I am I 100% match at ANY school. And arguing with someone is good. It leads to healthy discussion as long as it doesn’t adhere to any logical fallacies, and promotes critical thinking. And you may hold your opinion. I will keep my chin up high and know that I’ve done a fantastic job with the opportunities I’ve encountered. Have a nice day.</p>

<p>@ckoepp127‌ I know :confused: I’ve been a book worm most of my high school. I’ve tried a couple of sports. Did some volunteering. Partook in like 5-6 clubs at my school?</p>

<p>@blubberaptor Actually, you didn’t “simply ask why people had those opinions”. It was more like challenging them after you posted on here (a public website where people can have whatever opinion they want). And arguing with someone, after you ask them a question doesn’t lead to a healthy discussion. It makes you appear self-conceited and cocky, because if you are only open to hearing that you’ll be a match to all these Ivy Leagues, you will be very sad when you receive decision letters. </p>

<p>Also, I wouldn’t really go around telling people how much your parents make because it makes your 2 week internship seem less about your “achievements” than your parents big bank accounts. </p>

<p>@castle027‌ Arguing with someone after you ask a question does lead to healthy argument. An argument becomes unhealthy when ad-hominem, dicto-simpliciter, and other fallacious tools are used. I don’t think I’m a match to any of the competitive schools I listed (which I repeated multiple time >_>). </p>

<p>Also my parents are extremely cheap. The only tutoring I’ve received has been SAT prep over the summer. It’s their way of life that has taught me that charity work and volunteerism come before material gains. I posted their income just as another spectacle of information.</p>

<p>how much tutoring did you expect??? </p>

<p>Oh here’s my school GPA from 9-12. Maybe an upward trend may help?
Grade- UW (1st semester)/UW (2nd semester) W(1st semester)/W(2nd semester)
9- 3.83/4.0 3.83/4.0
10 - 4.0/3.67 4.67/4.33
11- 3.67/(estimated) 3.83 4.67/4.83
12- (estimated all) 4.0/3.83 4.33/4.17</p>

<p>@castle027‌ There are kids at my school that receive tutoring for AP classes, ACT, SAT, college counseling, essay writing, etc. The whole 9 yards.</p>

<p>Well at least you are doing a good job of dispelling the myth that all that tutoring of rich kids ensures success on those tests. No one broke 2350? </p>

<p>@greenman46‌
That was abruptly rude. I felt the same sentiments at first and posted a slightly harsh reply - but not that rude. If you read the subsequent posts, @bluberaptor apologized for it.</p>

<p>You do not need test-preparation to achieve high scores - lack thereof is not an excuse. </p>

<p>@wannabefeynman‌ However, the majority of kids that have high test scores had SAT prep.
@mathyone‌ No. There were 2 people on 2340 1 person on 2330 and 3 people on 2320.</p>

<p>@bluberaptor‌
… How about this anecdotal evidence? For the past some time, I have been tutoring numerous students for the SAT, ACT and AP Exams. The only material I have provided to them is constant revision of the material which is covered on the test, absolutely on test-preparation apart from what they already learned. In the time I have been tutoring them, not one have received a mark less then a perfect score (note that I do not mean the SAT I - even I could not get a perfect mark on the reading and writing section, but my “students” received high marks nonetheless and all of them achieved a perfect mark in the SAT I Math section). </p>

<p>Just wanted to point out that although the experience with Tyson for 2 weeks may help your essays/experience-based writing, and may even look great on your college applications, there are equivalent and much more prestigious programs that college admissions officers look at as well. SIMR, RSI, LAUNCH, and the likes are all extremely selective, and run much longer than 2 weeks. The research experience that you gain from the aforementioned programs, in my opinion, holds much stronger than the experience you would gain in 2 weeks. </p>

<p>Other than that, a couple questions I had:

  • In the clubs that you are in, are you an officer/do you hold a leadership position?
  • From my personal scores as well as the scores of those around me on the SAT II’s, I’m not quite sure whether a 710 in Chem, and the 730 in Biology are “good”, per se. </p>

<p>I feel like all the Ivies and Stanford are reaches (some not as far of a reach as others). Berkeley and LA are solid/high matches for you (the applicant pool is getting much more competitive), and the rest I feel you could get into comfortably. </p>

<p>P.S. - From reading your application, I’m not quite sure what your “specialty” or “focus” is, and that may be a problem.</p>

<p>@TheTrueOne‌
I am sure most people would agree that a score above 700 on the SAT is considered to be decent. However, I agree with you in the sense that they do not show a proficiency in the subject as universities such as MIT would accept from their applicants. </p>

<p>@wannabefeynman‌ Yup, that’s what I meant. With the schools that OP is looking for, I’m not sure that 710/730’s are going to impress score-wise, seeing that a majority of the applicant pool for said schools have 770+ in the SAT II’s.</p>

<p>@mathyone I think you’re being willfully obtuse if you deny that there is a strong correlation between wealth and SAT scores and that this correlation is largely due to availability of tutoring that simply does not exist on the lower end of the socioeconomic spectrum.</p>

<p>@bluberaptor Just curious, what the hell do your parents do?</p>

<p>@ckoepp127‌ A lot of things.
Dad is a World Director for a large Fortune-500 company while also doing consultation with other large companies, huge stock investment (Even lets me do some and I’ve made him 8k profit over 3 years), capital venture, trading.
Mom has a law firm involving with debt collection of large companies such as Discover and American Express.
We own several homes from which we collect rent.</p>

<p>Allow me to offer some advice:

  1. Don’t be so defensive on these forums. Whenever someone says you’re not a lock, you simply say “but other kids not as good as me got in” . The ivies are not a lock, and you working with Tyson for a couple of weeks doesn’t change that. You trying to prove that you’re better than everyone whenever someone questions your abilities is not nice in the slightest, and even when people call you out on it, you do it anyway. We get it, you have accolades, but please get over yourself. “Snobby” is the best word to describe it. It comes off as extremely self-righteous and egotistic. This is not a site for people to pat you on the back and agree with how great you are :slight_smile: .</p>

<p>2)With that said, you are a competitive applicant. But you probably already knew that, but then again that defeats the entire purpose of “Chance Me”</p>

<p>^ Honestly #2, goes for basically 1/2 the people on this site. Everyone is very gifted and very talented, but they know what we’re gonna say. “You’re competitive, just wait and see. Nothing is a guarantee”. I guess some just like to be reassured</p>

<p>I hope everything goes well for you though :smiley: , you’ve done a lot in 4 years.</p>