Chances at Princeton, Dartmouth, Washington U in ST.Louis????

<p>Princeton University- Reject
University of Pennsilvania- Accept
Stanford- Reject
Duke- Unknown
Dartmouth- Reject
Rice University- Accept
Berkeley- Accept
Washington University in St. Louis-Accept
Cornell University-Accept
Brown University- Accept
UCLA- Accept
University of Michigan - Ann Arbor- Accept</p>

<p>I'd say really go for Berkeley or Brown... just my two cents worth
Hope this help :)</p>

<p>Thank you, thank you, thank you, goldfish!!!!!!
And can you explain me something??!!!! You said for U of Penn to accept and Princeton to reject, but almost everybody told that it's harder to go to Penn than Princeton!!!! And could you tell me what do I need to improve!!! And does it mean something that for last 3 years every year at least one student from my country was accepted by Princeton!!!!And could you tell me which of these universities would give me full scholaship, or at least 90%!!!! I want to go to Berkeley but I need to do SAT test in december and I can't find deadline for Berkeley. On collegeboard I saw that deadline for biography is 30 november, but I can't find for SAT!!!!
And once again THANK YOU!!!!</p>

<p>For Princeton you will have to have some EC or talent in one area that really stands out. Your SAT scores will not disqualify you but you will have to write fantastic essays. You really have to be different and stand out from the other applicants.</p>

<p>Ma ko te jebe</p>

<p>I must agree with sehovic. :-) definitely etf and pmf. which is probably where i will end up myself, btw.</p>

<p>ETF and PMF? You want to come in Belgrade? Great.</p>

<p>I don't know who told you Penn is harder to get into than Princeton but that is ridiculous. Even Wharton is easier to get into than Princeton. Princeton is decidedly a more difficult school to get into than Penn College. Penn College is about as hard to get into as Brown/ Dartmouth/ Columbia/ Duke.</p>

<p>its all relative, different schools look for different things, for princeton, it is not numbers anymore, you have to have some type of hook to get in. Duke likes ppl who do research, brown likes ppl who want to learn for the value of learning and who are liberal thinkers, dartmouth LIKES high scorers on the sats, Penn advertises strong grades, but juding from my personal experiences with higher sat scores than their average and in the top 3 percent of my competitive school, these things aren't always predictable.</p>

<p>its all relative, different schools look for different things, for princeton, it is not numbers anymore, you have to have some type of hook to get in. Duke likes ppl who do research, brown likes ppl who want to learn for the value of learning and who are liberal thinkers, dartmouth LIKES high scorers on the sats, Penn advertises strong grades, but juding from my personal experiences with higher sat scores than their average and in the top 3 percent of my competitive school, these things aren't always predictable.</p>

<p>"Thank you, thank you, thank you, goldfish!!!!!!
And can you explain me something??!!!! You said for U of Penn to accept and Princeton to reject, but almost everybody told that it's harder to go to Penn than Princeton!!!! And could you tell me what do I need to improve!!! And does it mean something that for last 3 years every year at least one student from my country was accepted by Princeton!!!!And could you tell me which of these universities would give me full scholaship, or at least 90%!!!! I want to go to Berkeley but I need to do SAT test in december and I can't find deadline for Berkeley. On collegeboard I saw that deadline for biography is 30 november, but I can't find for SAT!!!!
And once again THANK YOU!!!!"</p>

<p>Dimif I think the deadline for SAT is December</p>

<p>Can I take SAT test in December (I think 4. december)!!! ANd could you reccomend me some universitie to be my safety???</p>

<p>Can I take SAT test in December (I think 4. december)!!! ANd could you reccomend me some universitie to be my safety???
That was me!!!!</p>

<p>Yeah you can still take the December one</p>

<p>Strong safeties:
Vanderbilt
Northwestern</p>

<p>Other safeties:
Boston Uni.
NYU
Ithaca
Lehigh
Tufts</p>

<p>Thank you GoldFIsh!!!!!!!!!!!!!</p>

<p>Don't forget the registration deadlines for SAT registration. The November one just passed ... so keep an eye out for that.</p>

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I don't have enough many to pay, so I need the scholaship.

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<p>This is going to be the big wild card at most of the schools that you are considering because they are not need blind to international students. The ones that are need blind an meet your demonstrated need are going to be the ones that are amongst the most competitive to gain admission because you will be competing against all other international applicants for what turns out to be very few spots (if you look up the common data sets at most of these schools, there are less than 100 international students in the freshman class). I would suggest that you carefully read the financial aid policies reagarding international students at each school which you are interested in attending.</p>

<p>Dartmouth is not need blind, so you ability to pay will be a factor. However, if you are admitted , they will meet 100% of your demonstrated need.</p>

<p>Penn states the following:</p>

<p><a href="http://www.admissionsug.upenn.edu/applying/aid.php%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www.admissionsug.upenn.edu/applying/aid.php&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>If you are a Non-Citizen
**The University is able to offer financial assistance to very few students who are not citizens or permanent residents of the U.S., Canada or Mexico. Therefore, most non-citizens should plan to meet expenses for their entire schooling before applying for admission. **</p>

<p>Because the offer of *admission for non-citizens is directly linked to their ability to meet these expenses, candidates who can pay for their schooling are urged not to apply for Penn-sponsored assistance. *</p>

<p>If You Require Financial Aid </p>

<p>Students who absolutely require such funding should submit Penn's Institutional Financial Aid Application, but they should also understand that they are in competition for very limited funds.
Penn will not admit a financial aid candidate for whom we cannot provide aid. As a result, some candidates we would otherwise want to admit will be turned away. </p>

<p>**International applicants who anticipate the need for financial aid at any time during their four-year course of study must make this anticipated need known at the time of application. **</p>

<p>Students who receive financial aid are assured of continued support for all of their undergraduate years, if they continue to demonstrate financial need.</p>

<p>Wash U</p>

<p>*Washington University provides a limited amount of financial assistance for a small number of freshman and transfer international students who have shown high levels of achievement. Financial assistance for qualified students is considered on a case-by-case basis. Although we do our best to provide competitive financial assistance packages, funding limitations prevent the University from providing financial support for all applicants who deserve it, nor is it always possible to meet every recipient’s requirements. Financial assistance is renewable for each year of undergraduate study, as long as the student is making normal progress toward the degree and maintaining a good academic record.</p>

<p>Financial assistance for qualified students is usually limited to awards that are substantially less than the full cost of tuition. You and your family will need to be able to pay the remaining portion of the total costs of attending Washington University. </p>

<p>Proof of Financial Support</p>

<p>In compliance with Immigration and Naturalization Services (INS) regulations, Washington University requires all admitted international students to submit detailed financial information statements before a Form I-20 can be processed. These statements should include the amounts and sources of funds available for their educational expenses in the United States. Admitted students will receive the Declaration and Certification of Finances by mail.</p>

<p>Admitted students must submit (or have submitted for them) notarized letters from parents or sponsors and certified bank statements in English verifying that they have sufficient funds available to finance their first year’s tuition and living expenses and that a comparable amount of money will be available for every subsequent year of study. Financial assistance awards may be deducted from the amount to be certified. Students planning to enroll in summer courses are advised to budget an additional amount of money to cover their summer tuition expenses. </p>

<p>The cost estimate for living expenses covers only minimal essential expenditures. Expenses for clothing, recreation, and incidentals are variable, and the cost of travel outside St. Louis is not included.</p>

<p>*It is very important that international students who wish to study at Washington University come prepared to financially support the cost of their education during the entire time that they expect to remain in the United States. **</p>

<p><a href="http://admissions.wustl.edu/admissions/ua.nsf/3rd%20Level%20Pages_SFS_FA_International.htm?OpenPage&charset=iso-8859-1%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://admissions.wustl.edu/admissions/ua.nsf/3rd%20Level%20Pages_SFS_FA_International.htm?OpenPage&charset=iso-8859-1&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>Cornell</p>

<p>*International Students: Financial Aid *</p>

<p>Citizenship and eligibility:United States citizens and permanent residents, Canadian citizens and permanent residents, and Mexican citizens are eligible for consideration for the financial aid and financing options described on the Financial Aid Web site. Cornell University maintains only a very limited program of financial assistance for international students who are not citizens or permanent residents of the United States, Canada, or Mexico. Those who do receive funds have exceptional credentials and demonstrate financial need. This information is not intended to discourage you from applying, but to give you a realistic understanding of the nuances for receiving financial aid to attend Cornell.</p>

<p><a href="http://admissions.cornell.edu/apply/international/faid.cfm%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://admissions.cornell.edu/apply/international/faid.cfm&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>Brown</p>

<p>Brown meets full demonstrated need of all admitted students who have applied for financial aid. Financial aid for foreign citizens, however, is limited. If you wish to be considered for financial aid at any time during your four years at Brown, you should apply at the time of admission. All financial aid at Brown is awarded solely on the basis of financial need, which is determined annually by our analysis of applications submitted by students and their families. </p>

<p>International citizens who are not permanent residents should submit the International Student Financial Aid Application and the International Student Certificate of Finances. Canadian students should complete the CSS/Financial Aid PROFILE application. United States citizens and permanent residents living abroad should complete the Free Application for Federal Student Aid (FAFSA) and the PROFILE. All of these forms are available from the Office of Financial Aid. They must be returned to the Office of Financial Aid by February 1 of the year in which you wish to gain admission. Announcement of financial aid awards is made with admission decisions in April. </p>

<p>Awards are not given in cash, but as credits toward the cost of tuition, fees, room, and board. Financial aid covers books and some personal expenses, but does not cover vacation and summer expenses. Immigration regulations and restrictions on off-campus summer employment in the United States make it imperative that overseas applicants know exactly where they can obtain funds (e.g. family resources, government grants, or savings). All applicants should consult local education officials and make every effort to obtain outside sources of financial aid. The Association of International Educators can also provide you with some useful information on financing an education in the United States.
<a href="http://www.brown.edu/Administration/Admission/applyingtobrown/internationalstudents.html%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www.brown.edu/Administration/Admission/applyingtobrown/internationalstudents.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>Duke:</p>

<p>Foreign Citizens</p>

<p>There are two applicant pools for foreign citizens: those not applying for financial aid who will be considered for admission along with U.S. citizens and Lawful Permanent Residents, and those applying for financial aid who will be considered in a separate process for a limited number of places in the entering class.</p>

<p>Foreign citizens who are not U.S. citizens or Lawful Permanent Residents applying for financial aid must submit the International Student Financial Aid Application along with a copy of their family's most recent national tax forms. The financial aid application is available on the Financial Aid Office Web site and should be submitted with the admissions application.</p>

<p>International students living with their families in the United States should submit the same financial aid materials Duke requires for U.S. citizens except the FAFSA (Free Application for Federal Student Aid).</p>

<p><a href="http://www.admissions.duke.edu/jump/applying/finaid.asp%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www.admissions.duke.edu/jump/applying/finaid.asp&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>Rice</p>

<p>International applicants must supply documentation of sufficient financial support for their first year of study at Rice before an application for admission can be processed. Need-based financial aid at Rice is available only to United States citizens and documented permanent residents. All accepted freshman applicants will be considered for merit awards based on academic and individual excellence. However, these awards cannot be expected to cover the full cost of a Rice education.</p>

<p><a href="http://www.futureowls.rice.edu/futureowls/International_Admission_Index.asp?SnID=570497554%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www.futureowls.rice.edu/futureowls/International_Admission_Index.asp?SnID=570497554&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>wow......................</p>

<p>I have registered for Novembar SAT but in November I'm doing SAT I and in December I need to do SAT II!!!!!!</p>

<p>such misleading advice... northwestern, NYU, and tufts are NOT safeties no matter who you are. particularly if scholarships are needed.</p>