Chances at Swarthmore/Williams?

<p>GPA: 4.0 unweighted
SAT: 2300 (but taking it again Oct): 800 Math, 750 CR and Writing
SAT IIs: 800 (Math II), 800 (Bio-E), 790 (US History), 760 (French)
APs: 5 (US History), 5 (English Lang), taking Euro, Lit, BC Calc, Gov, and French this year
Schedule This Year: AP Euro, AP Lit, BC Calc, AP Gov, AP French, Independent Study Sculpture, Forensics H and Anatomy H
(I've taken the highest leveled classes offered thus far)
ECs:
-4 years of crew
-3 years as editor-in-chief of literary magazine
-2 years as math tutor
-3 years in a community service club
-2 years of sculpture (including independent study and working at an art museum over summers)
-year-long internship at local organization
-piano and composition
-Senior Writing Center Coach
-joining math team next year</p>

<p>Awards:
-Brown University Book Award
-History Junior Book Award
-Math Award
-Le Grand Concours (National French Exam) Gold Medal (10) and Certificat D'Honneur (11)
-(don't know yet about National Merit)</p>

<p>Stellar recommendations</p>

<p>Also, I took a class at Brown University this past summer.</p>

<p>What are my chances at</p>

<p>Swarthmore
Williams
Yale
Brown
UChicago
Vassar</p>

<p>and how would applying ED affect them?</p>

<p>Not that I know much about this kind of stuff, but I think you already have a pretty good idea about your chances for those schools (very good?)</p>

<p>Thank you!</p>

<p>All of those are high reaches except for Vassar. I’d say Yale, Brown, Swarthmore are the highest, then slightly lower are UChicago and Wiliams, and below that Vassar. Vassar is a low reach, but is looking for someone who fits Vassar. Same with all these schools, but usually, in my opinion, LAC’s are more picky about the type of studens they admit.</p>

<p>Also… You should look into Reed, Haverford, Amherst, and Wesleyan. (Your list is very similar to mine, except I had Amherst instead of Wiliams and I applied to Reed and Wesleyan of the schools I just listed) And maybe check out some Midwestern LAC’s like Carleton, Macalester, Kenyon, Oberlin. I also considered Tufts, Brandeis, University of Rochester. Or if you’d ever consider west coast look into Pomona or any of the Claremont Colleges.</p>

<p>Thanks. I’m considering Amherst and Oberlin–how do you think Amherst compares to Williams or Swarthmore in terms of chances?</p>

<p>Looks like you have a great chance at these liberal arts schools! Good luck buddy</p>

<p>Uchicago and brown seem like match schools. You have some strong Stats! If you could get any extracurriculars that stand out, you will have a much better shot. Yale is a reach but I feel like its a reach for everyone.
Vassar should be an easy in and I don’t know anything about swarthmore and Williams.
Regarding ED, you will have to do some research to see which schools have exceptionally high ED acceptance rates vs regular. But remember, acceptance rates arent everything. Take it with a grain of salt.</p>

<p>Schools may question your judgment if you retake SAT. Once it’s high enough, and yours is high enough, retakes don’t improve your chances</p>

<p>UChicago and Brown are NOT AND NEVER ARE match schools! UChicago - 13.2% admitted, Brown - 8 or 9% admitted. Not a match at all, for anyone. Amherst is as selective as Swarthmore and Williams.</p>

<p>You have a great chance at U chicago but the rest might be reaches.</p>

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<p>chance me back?</p>

<p>Wordworker, I’ve only taken the SAT once, and most students take it 2-3 times. Also, PAGRok, would you suggest a few liberal arts match schools?</p>

<p>(Also, what are my chances at Wellesley and Oberlin?)</p>

<p>Swarthmore- reach
Williams- don’t know enough about :frowning:
Yale- reach
Brown- match/ low reach
UChicago- low reach
Vassar- match</p>

<p>for whatever it’s worth, Amherst’s acceptance rate is lower than Williams (for RD)
Agree with PAGRok, take a look at Haverford, small but great school</p>

<p>First of all, I agree that there is no point at all taking the SAT again with that score, that is strong enough to be an asset at any school you are applying to, and even if you could raise it a few points, that is highly, highly unlikely to be determinative. </p>

<p>I think you stand a very good chance at gaining admission to at least a few schools on your list, you are unlikely to get into all, but you are almost certain to get into a few. </p>

<p>In terms of Williams, I think you stand a very good chance of getting in (certainly better than 1/5, in other words better than the average applicant). You sound like a particularly good fit for Williams and I would try to make that clear through your application materials. First, crew is VERY strong at Williams, but Williams relies on a lot of people who have never even rowed before, so if you want to do crew in college, your experience would certainly be an asset (women’s crew has won six straight national titles, and the men’s crew is consistently one of the best small-school crews in the country). Most definitely reach out to the coach if that is your intention. </p>

<p>Your time spent at museums and working on sculpture would also be a big asset. Williams has as I’m sure you know two major museums basically on campus, and one nearby in MassMoca, and a famous art history program. A lot of students get involved working at the museums. Williams also has a massive art studio facility and is always looking for students who are interested in and talented at studio art. Finally, math is unusually popular as a major at Williams, and along with art history, definitely one of the strongest majors on campus. Community service is also something that Williams has been emphasizing more and more in recent years, and something you could also choose to emphasize. So it seems like your intellectual and personal interests are a really good match for what Williams has to offer, and that is something the school will appreciate, particularly if you apply E.D. I would focus your applications materials for Williams (or any of these schools) to emphasize 1, or at most 2-3 major areas of interest, whether that ends up being art/music, athletics, math, community service, all of which you seem to have shown a dedicated interest in, to highlight what you will contribute to the community. If you did apply E.D., I think your odds at Williams would be very good (at worst 50/50), although again, there are never any guarantees at this level. Even R.D., I like your chances, but with less than 1/5 getting into virtually all the schools you are applying to, it is never easy to predict with any degree of certainty. But given your interest and aptitude in both math and a wide variety of arts, it’s hard to imagine a better academic fit, at least, than Williams. </p>

<p>(For what it’s worth, I also think that Swarthmore, Amherst, and UChicago would all at least strongly consider your applications. Vassar would accept you for certain, unless they are afraid that you are just using them as a back-up and would turn them down. I know less about Brown and Yale).</p>

<p>Oh for matches I’d say Bates, Colby, Hamilton, Bard, Colgate, Macalester, Carleton?, Wesleyan, Kenyon, Oberlin? and looking back at Vassar’s stats probably a match too. The ? are for schools that I don’t know if they’d be a reach or a match.</p>