chances for a brotha!!

<p>Rising senior
black male: 17
From: San Diego, California
School: public ghetto high school
Rank: 11/820</p>

<p>GPA (W): 4.7
GPA (U/W): 4.4
SAT: 2250 out of 2400
ACT: 34
SAT II: Bio(M) 650, Math I 800, Chem 700
AP Scores:
World History: 4
Biology: 4
Chemistry: 5
Calculus AB: 4
English Language: 5
USH: 5
Psychology: 5
Statistics: 5</p>

<p>Senior Courseload:
AP English Lit and Comp
AP Calc BC,
AP Physics C
AP Govt/Econ,
Football
Track/Cross Country
Spanish IV Honors</p>

<p>Extra Circular Activites
-Mu Alpha Theta Secreatary (10 & 11),
-National Honor Society Secreatry- (11th)
-HOSA Vp(10th)
-all american football mvp(10th & 11th)
- state champ in the 200 meter & 400 meter (11th)</p>

<p>I dont have alot of EC's because track & football plus the ones I have take up alot of my time, my rank is not 1 or 2 but I think its decent. Any feedback or advice would be great..Just trying to see if a brotha can get in..</p>

<p>I was also wondering how good are Princetons financial aid packages are? Considering I will need some type of financial aid..</p>

<p>THANK YOU</p>

<p>with your particular profile and record of achievement, i should think you will be highly attractive to all top schools, including princeton. princeton has a well-deserved reputation as being extremely generous with financial aid, as generous as any school in the country. the aid office offers an online "early estimator," which i gather is fairly accurate, so you can get a feel for how much princeton might give you if admitted and how much it might ask you and your family to pitch in. good luck.</p>

<p><a href="http://www.princeton.edu/main/admission-aid/aid/prospective/estimator/%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www.princeton.edu/main/admission-aid/aid/prospective/estimator/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>Thanks alot for the link.</p>

<p>Wow - very impressive. Even without taking into account socio-economic factors, you're a really competitive applicant. The fact that you can distinguish yourself even more among an already select group of kids (high SATs, 8 APs - which I believe makes you a National AP Scholar or whatever they call it - very hard to get; and that's not even counting your senior year AP classes!) means that you stand a great chance of getting into Princeton, or other top schools for that matter. But why would you want to go to the 2nd best for undergrad? :-)</p>

<p>obviously contact the athletic depts...you'll have at least two very happy to have you and make it happen</p>

<p>I agree with all of the responses. You are a very competitive applicant. Colleges also realize that being involved in sports and at the level you are at is extremely tough. Yet, you still were able to do very well academically.</p>

<p>My son is starting Princeton next month, and we found that the Princeton students and alumni who participate on college confidential to be the most helpful people.</p>

<p>I wish you great success, but don't think you will need it.</p>

<p>Thank you for all the replies and input it is greatly appreciated! I am suppose to be talking to the football and track coach when school starts back up. </p>

<p>I was wondering if anyone had information or knows about Princetons
fin-aid??</p>

<p>Bryshon something won the cali 200m and 400m dashes last year. Too bad he was a senior.</p>

<p>What the hell are you talking about 'talk to the coaches.' You need a 45-46 to win in california. You'd be having recruits knocking down your door from ivies if that was true.</p>

<p>To give those of you who are buying into this some perspective...
Every year, Cal state sprint champs are good enough to qualify for the olympic team.</p>

<p>This kinda proves how worthless chance threads are.
People actually took him seriously and said he had a great chance.
More often than not, your cal state sprint champ is in the top 3 youth sprinters in the world. If this kid did indeed win the 200 and 400m titles, which he did not, I could see Princeton admitting him with a 23 on his ACT. Yes, he would be THAT desirable.</p>

<p>did you even ask what kind of school he goes to? maybe he goes to a private school</p>

<p>it says in his stats, at the beginning:</p>

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School: public ghetto high school

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<p>f.scottie, along with PtonGrad2000, the authoritative voice of Princeton on CC, underplayed the generosity of Princeton's FinAid Dept. In the right circumstances, even families with $200k/yr. incomes can get help. Applicants from families in the under $60k area get a full ride. And that's grants, as in you don't have to repay them, as opposed to loans. There's a case-by-case sliding scale applied to incomes in between.</p>

<p>That said, go to: <a href="https://sweb.princeton.edu/cgi-bin/FinAid/finaid_form.pl%5B/url%5D"&gt;https://sweb.princeton.edu/cgi-bin/FinAid/finaid_form.pl&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>and fill in the blanks if you want a very good idea of the level of aid you're likely to receive if accepted.</p>

<p>IMO, you have a great shot at being admitted.</p>

<p>Last, with all due respect, we write it brutha, not brotha.</p>

<p>(All this is offered in good faith and assumes none of the info you posted is B.S.)</p>

<p>Well it looks like some people have called into question the accuracy of the sports extracurriculars. To be honest I didn't even really take those into account; it's kind of irrelevant so long as you're decent if you really do have those grades and AP/SAT scores. So, obviously if anything is embellished or misconveyed here you can absolutely not put it on your application.</p>

<p>yes, Princeton's financial aid is beyond belief. I believe the average debt was just under $5,000. A friend of mine went to princeton for 10k/year and his parents make 130k</p>

<p>To give you some more perspective, Princeton has around $1,900,000 in their endowment for every single student that goes there. Princeton actually LOSES money on all of their students by tuition standards alone. (yes, they even lose money on those paying full tuition).</p>

<p>Well, maybe what token is saying is that the guy is in a different class/division (if they do in California? I don't know.)</p>

<p>In Oklahoma, we have class A - 5A (6A in football) and lots of people can call themselves "state champions."</p>

<p>But ya, I've read a couple chance threads that I knew for sure were inflating their statistics. And really, what good is inflating your statistics when you're looking for "accurate" and honest opinions?</p>

<p>no, cal is one shot.</p>

<p>His AP scores and SAT would be high enough to propel him in regardless of athletics; but those could be inflated as well.</p>