chances for hopeful harvard athlete

<p>hey 3togo. thanks for the advice. luckily, i've already done it. i've emailed and called all the coaches of the schools that i'm interested in (penn, duke, cornell sorta, harvard, and bc). i've filled out more questionnaires than i can remember too. the only one that has really shown any interest though is harvard. penn i knew i had almost no chance of sprinting because of what red remote said. i'm never gonna run a 10.6 and they have 3 guys that ran under 10.8 last year i think. duke and bc gave me the cold sholder. cornell showed some interest but i'm not that interested in the school. it's kinda in the middle of nowhere. if harvard doesn't work out, i could see myself walking on somewhere like duke or penn (i don't think their hurdlers are that strong). whatever, we'll see. i'm excited about harvard.
i assume you guys are students there right now? i've heard all the great things about harvard but what are some negatives about life at harvard (the people, the workload, the facilities, the teachers maybe)?</p>

<p>if you shoot a little lower on the track food chain you might get a lot stronger hook ... have you looked at top tier academic DIII schools like the NESCAC schools (Williams, Amherst, etc) ... I'm guessing you would get a much stronger pull from them.</p>

<p>thanks but no thanks.</p>

<p>doesn't cornell have the best track and field in the ivies (at least for the past few years)?</p>

<p>yeah they do. the coach basically told me in a nice way that i'd have no chance at running the 400's. i think they went 1,2,4,5 last year or something like that. they're really good. i'd have a shot at the 100 because, like harvard, they don't give a damn. they wouldn't recruit me though to run the 100 if my best time is 11.17 (i think i'll be running sub11 by the time i get to wherever i'm going. that 11.17 was my 8th race in two days).</p>

<p>"not interested in the DIII schools" ... fair enough ... </p>

<p>FYI, I would be amazed if you couldn't walk on at the IVY schools on your list (Duke and BC might be tougher as the overall level of the programs could be higher). When I was at Cornell 30 years ago the XC team did have cuts but virtually any HS varsity runner would have made the relatively easy cut and I do not believe either the indoor or outdoor teams cut anyone. Lots of walk-ons ran regularly for the team and at worst they got to run in home dual meets.</p>

<p>walking on at penn and yale might be hard.</p>

<p>didnt read the entire thread. But like other people have said</p>

<p>Barring disaster, you are in</p>

<p>i’ve pretty much got that from the coach. i visit in two weeks. anybody have any tips?</p>

<p>Bring a variety of clothes, to layer for possible cool/cold weather. Prepare to sleep on someone’s hard floor (bring slpg. bag and pad), avoid the drinking parties, and show enthusiasm and humility, (teams don’t need primadonnas). Enjoy meeting incredible, but friendly future teammates!</p>

<p>My daughter was recruited to Harvard as an athlete, so I’ve seen the drill. If the coach is bringing you in for an official visit, you are on the very short list - unless you blow the visit by doing something they don’t like, you have an extremely high chance of getting in given your academic numbers. In the Ivy League, coaches are not allowed to promise you admission - that can only come from the admissions office.
You will have an admissions interview when you visit, I assume you have already filled out your application in full? Be prepared to discuss the subjects you like, the books you read, etc
One thing I learned from my daughter’s visit is that it’s a good thing to say how interested you are, but if you are being recruited by other colleges, say that too so they know they should give you a likely letter quickly. And don’t tell them Harvard is your absolute far and away first choice, or the admissions office may hesitate to give you a likely letter saying you want to come to Harvard anyway, so why do they need to try to lock you in with a likely letter. They are allowed to do provide likely letters after Oct 1 - if you can get one you can relax and enjoy your senior year as my daughter did.</p>

<p>On your cornell post - if they showed interest, follow up! Having more than one school actively recruiting you gives you more leverage to get a likely letter (ie: admissions offer) quickly. But don’t say they are recruiting you if they are not, because the coaches talk to each other and you will be blacklisted.</p>

<p>And follow up with those D3 schools that liked you! Same reason - more leverage at the schools you really want. And you never know, some of those schools really prioritize athletics and have terrific academics, and if you visit you may love them. My daughter did - she was recruited by Columbia and Harvard, but she visited some of the top academic D3 schools and really liked them and was seriously considering them if she didn’t get admitted to Harvard.</p>

<p>Yeah they already told me that I’ll have a short interview with the admissions office. I’m usually pretty good at that kind of stuff though. I’m very interested in the school, but it’s definitely not my far and away first choice. There are two or three other schools that if I got into them with enough financial aid, I’d pick them over Harvard. But I haven’t really seen the campus yet, so we’ll see.
I’ve already told the coach that I’ve been talking to other schools but none are actively recruiting me like Harvard is. I’ve talked briefly with the coaches at Cornell, Emory, Penn, and WashU but nothing really developed. As none of them give athletic scholarships anyway, I’d probably just try to walk on once I got there. I feel pretty good about my chances of getting in on my own to those four.
Someone said avoid the drinking parties earlier. Why?</p>

<p>Because you are underaged and if you are caught by proctors your application will be nixed. The NCAA has strict rules for h.s. recruits which are sent to your weekend host by the coaches. Adcoms are serious about admitting untarnished applicants. (Nor do they want a recruit who cannot abide by the rules for 48 hours.)</p>

<p>About drinking parties - it’s part of the general category of not sabotaging yourself. Being seen as mature, courteous, well mannered, exhibiting good judgement and being considerate of your team-mates is a big part of the official. It’s unlikely anyone will exhibit any of those traits at a drinking party…Unlike some of the big athletic schools, Harvard’s goal for the official is not to ‘show a good time’ to its recruits, but to assess their character.</p>

<p>good call.</p>

<p>did u get in?</p>

<p>Yes, he did get in, with a likely letter (in early December, I believe).</p>

<p>beastlyyyyy</p>