Chances for recruited athlete w/mediocre scores???

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<p>I've been recruited by the Harvard football program -- how big of a "hook" is this? b/c I totally suck at testing! I'm being recruited by other schools too, but Harvard is definitely my 1st choice; however, I don't want to "waste" my 1 shot at early application if Harvard isn't a realistic possibility. Please be honest! Here are my stats:</p>

<p>4.23 weighted GPA, 3.8 unweighted (something like that)
8th class rank out of 450
SAT 630 m 630 v
Subject tests: US Hist 670, Math 650, Chem 530 ---see I told u!
3 APs this year, 2 last year but I only got 3s on the tests</p>

<p>ECs:
Varsity football, starter on D & offense
Varsity track
Swim
Wrestling
VP Nat'l Honor
Pt job lifeguard 15-20 hrs/wk.
Play guitar & have my own band
Teach guitar lessons
Eagle scout
A few smaller things I may-or-may-not include.</p>

<p>Oh yea, also oldest of 7 kids, neither parent grad college.</p>

<p>So, whacha think??? Anything I can do to improve my chances?</p>

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<p>those sat scores are very weak for harvard, but then again, you got a hook.</p>

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<p>i would think the harvard coaches would be the ones giving you a good deal of input on this. they should know you academic index, and they should know where you stand. have they asked you what your intentions are about applying ed? i think that the coaches that are recruiting you could give you the best insight of all.</p>

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<p>I endorse the views expressed by the previous poster. </p>

<p>Whether the coaches are willing to "spend" one of the few lower AI slots on you depends on how highly they assess your ability.</p>

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<p>They really don't give much feedback - I think they are restricted by ncaa regs from doing so. However, they are stressing the importance of applying ed. So should I take that to mean anything... ?</p>

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<p>they arent restricted by ncaa regulations unless you are waiting for a phone call. they can respond to emails whenever YOU send them. use one of the online academic index calculators to find your AI. plus football players especially if you are good get a lot of space to work with.</p>

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<p>it truely depends on their level of interest. i too am a harvard recruited athlete. i'm a girl who plays a lot of lacrosse, and from experience i know that your chances can be made clear by the coach. i do not need much "help" in terms of admissions with respect to testing and my index and because i am one of her top recruits this year, i have been given a likely letter and am virtually (and i say virtually because after all it is only a likely letter and not a final decision) accepted to the school.</p>

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<p>i.e. i am going to harvard next year</p>

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<p>Harvard doesn't have ED. It has EA, which is nonbinding.</p>

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<p>sorry, i used the term ed--but my point is still the same--talk to the coaches. you can call and e-mail them anytime you want. and since it's after september 1, they can call you once a week. i have found that all the coaches that have talked to me and to my son have been very forthcoming with his academic index, their intentions, and where he stood. so make a call or send an e-mail--whatever you find out, it's better than not knowing!</p>

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<p>If they want you badly enough you will go to Harvard. Nothing about your stats will keep you out if you are a heavily recruited athlete.
Best of Luck</p>

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<p>From the Dartmouth Daily Sun (Harvard's numbers are slightly lower, if I recall):</p>

<p>Football is the most closely monitored sport in the Ivy League. Given the range of competitive pressures surrounding football, it is monitored through a more detailed system of AI bands, or ranges, with very specific numerical limits on the number of football recruits that may be enrolled in each AI band. There are four bands corresponding to: class mean AI -1 S.D., 1 S.D.-2 S.D., 2 S.D. -2.5 S.D., and 2.5 S.D. - the Ivy AI floor. An average 30 football recruits may be enrolled each year distributed 8, 13, 7, 2 across the four bands top to bottom. No more than 120 recruited players may be enrolled over four years. Every Ivy school is obligated by the same system. This is an attempt to create a "level playing field"in terms of admissions standards.</p>

<p><a href="http://www.dartmouth.edu/%7Enews/releases/2004/12/27.html%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www.dartmouth.edu/~news/releases/2004/12/27.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

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<p><a href="http://www.thecrimson.com/article.aspx?ref=349217%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www.thecrimson.com/article.aspx?ref=349217&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

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<p>Hey, thnx for the link, good article. I found out my AI is 206 - that's not too bad, right? Well, for an athlete, lol.</p>

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<p>What are your football credentials? (Height, weight, speed, position(s), regional or state recognition, etc.)</p>

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<p>5'11" 195 lbs. Starting D-end & full-back. last year was all-region, Mr. Basha" award for best all-araound player; was switched to half-back last week after another player's injury and then rushed for 178 yds., won game MVP. I think I'm going to tear it up again this Fri.!</p>

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<p>"Mr Basha"? What's that? What state are we talking about? Are you listed with any of the recruiting services or scouting combines?</p>

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<p>Nope, my folks can't afford it. "Mr. Basha" is the award for all-around student/athelete given by my high school (Basha High School).</p>

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<p>Sorry - my state is Arizona. Do you know if this in an under-represented state @ Harvard?</p>

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<p>This you?</p>

<p><a href="http://www.azcentral.com/sports/preps/articles/1015cesarchavez1015.html%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www.azcentral.com/sports/preps/articles/1015cesarchavez1015.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>