Chances for Ivys/Public Ivys

Chance Me / Match Me!
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<p>--------PLEASE MOVE IF THIS THREAD IS IN THE WRONG SECTION--------</p>

<p>Hi! I'll be applying to Ivy Leagues, Public Ivys, and some other schools. Here's rough list of schools, with my priorities.....</p>

<p>Harvard #2
Princeton #3
Johns Hopkins #2
University of Michigan #1
University of Texas Austin #4
Washington University in St. Louis #1
or suggest a university strong in bio/premed program.</p>

<p>Backups:
LSU</p>

<p>So, here's my stats</p>

<p>Ethnicity: Asian
Age: 17</p>

<p>SAT I: not taken
SAT II: not taken; planning to take
ACT: 33, planning to take again for top 1% score
Estimated High School gpa: 3.6
Clubs throughout high school (# years): NJROTC (2), MAO (2), World Language Club (2), FBLA (2), Med-Ex (1), Computer Science Club (1)</p>

<p>I won 4th place in a state event for FBLA, and I'm an officer in CS club</p>

<p>Other things:</p>

<p>During my Junior year of high school, I transferred in to a magnet school. The classes I took are all tough, college level classes (not AP classes, college credit level classes). My GPA went down from a 4.0 to a 3.6. Here's a list of the maths/sciences I took. </p>

<p>Calculus I (differential calc)
Calculus II (integral calc)
Calculus III
Probability/Statistics
Physics with calculus
Chemistry II
Human Anatomy
Vertebrate Zoology
Genetics
Molecular/Cellular </p>

<p>All of my teacher, with the exception of my math teachers, were PHds</p>

<p>Additionally, during the summer between my Junior and Senior year, I completed around 400 hours of research in a research lab. I worked with a mentor, and after a few weeks, was independently doing all of the procedures/experiments. I'm in the process of writing a research paper, and I hope to enter the Siemens Westinghouse and Intel competitions.</p>

<p>I have also completed about 200 hours of volunteering at a church, library, elementary school, my school, and other places. However, this was mandatory (stipulated by school). Does this count?</p>

<p>Another important part of the college I go to is money. My family income is slightly over 100k. How much money in grants/waiving can i receive if I apply to an Ivy? University of Michigan is almost as expensive as an Ivy for out of state people. Can I expect to get more aid from a public university than a private university?</p>

<p>I hope to attend medical school, which is very expensive. I need scholarships/grants because I don't see the point in paying high tuition for 8 years. </p>

<p>Anyways, thanks for reading this. If you don't want to fit me to a specific college, please offer suggestions for schools you think I have a shot for. If you want/need more info, please ask for it.</p>

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<p>You won’t get much out of an Ivy in terms of financial aid. 100K+ puts you firmly within the “upper middle class” standing where it’s not easy to pay tuition but need-based aid is limited. By the way, do you know your rank? For an Asian, everything seems pretty average (which does not mean a bad thing). You need to take the SAT II ASAP, and your ACT is okay. Your GPA could put some hurt on your application, but that depends on your rank (if your school ranks). I would say that Wash U and Johns Hopkins are high match. Harvard and Princeton are probably reach to high reach. University of Michigan, maybe a match to high match. Can’t say too much about UT. Anyone else, feel free to correct me.</p>

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<p>Everything looks great and don’t worry too much about GPA. It’s clear that your magnet school was much more rigorous than your former PS and colleges will only judge your GPA in the context of your school (rankings is matter much much more).</p>

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<p>You won’t get much out of the Ivies seeing as they don’t offer merit based scholarships. Correct me if I am wrong. So you should apply for local scholarships as well.</p>

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<p>Yes, volunteer hours that you completed because they were required do count. Some students complain about such requirements–but the benefit to you (besides the normal benefits of volunteering) is that your school has kept records and can verify your volunteering hours.</p>

<p>With contributions from several others, I just updated a list of colleges offering various percentages of merit aid. You can find it here:</p>

<p><a href=“http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/parents-forum/696637-merit-aid-percentage-common-data-set-6.html[/url]”>http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/parents-forum/696637-merit-aid-percentage-common-data-set-6.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p>In general, you are more likely to be able to receive merit aid from private schools than from public schools. While Ivy League schools and other prestigious schools do not offer merit aid, they do tend to give more generous need-based aid. You can go to some of their websites to get an estimate of how much need-based aid they might offer. Princeton has an online calculator, for example.</p>

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<p>i think you have a solid chance at all of the school’s you’re applying to considering your super strong EC’s but your grades MIGHT drag you down a bit but i wouldn’t worry about it.
however, i would encourage you to apply to a real safety school where you’re most likely to get in cause i dont’ see you MOST LIKELY to get into any of these schools. it’s more like 50/50</p>

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<p>my high school doesn’t rank</p>

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<p>any others wanna comment?</p>

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<p>There is so much bad info on this thread it’s hard to know where to begin.</p>

<p>First, with a $100k income, unless your family has unusual assets, you would onlybpay 10% of income at HYP. Others ivies are not as generous, but they would still give most at that income level aid. A rough guess is that you’d be expected to pay 25-30K (plus 5.6% of assets).</p>

<p>Michigan does offer a bit of aid to OOS students, but not much. Your stats would have to be tip top.</p>

<p>Rank is going to matter, whether your school officially ranks or not, colleges will ge given enough info to rank you. 3.6 sounds mighty low for an ivy. Keep in mind many candidates have gone way beyond typical high school classes and still have very high stats at top high schools.</p>

<p>If Michigan is your number one, apply early, you could just be over right there.</p>

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<p>Hmmm. I was under the impression that only Harvard offered a substantial amount for those under $200K (I think…). I was unaware that Yale and Princeton followed up. But as I said, correct me if I’m wrong. Thanks Redroses.</p>

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<p>^Harvard’s benchmarks were full ride for under 60k and no tuition for under 120k.</p>

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<p>well I don’t actually have a 3.6…I have a 3.76.</p>

<p>If I work hard and keep a 3.76 or higher, will it make a huge difference?</p>

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<p>bump</p>

<p>any more placements?</p>