Chances to UChi, NYU, UPENN, Cornell

Transfer Students
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<p>I cant even sleep... I think about this so much. I would be very thankful if anyone on this board can let me know of my chances or if I have a shot to get into WashU, Harvard, UPENN, NYU(1st choice), U of Chicago (2nd choice) Cornell, Northwestern, Vanderbilt, Dartmouth or Brown. The option of returning to SUNY Binghamton is also open. I have a bit of a complicated resume so please bear with me.</p>

<p>High School GPA: 4.3 out of 4.5
H.S Rank - 11th out of 380
SAT score- 1190 (Ouch, mixed up with the wrong crowd jr, sr year, never opened a book)
SAT 2's - math - 550, writing - 600
E.C's - various varsity sports(track, football) many clubs including pres of environmental club.</p>

<p>College GPA SUNY Bing - 3.65 - (misleading)
2.7 first semester due to a D in calculus, 3.925, 4.0, and 4.0 next 3 semesters with a tough schedule including Chems, Bios, Organic chems, and calculus 2. Studied my ass off over winter break last year to pull an A in calculus 2 in order to rectify calc 1. (Is progression noted?) All A's and one A- in my last 3 semesters.<br>
E.C's - sporadic intramural sports, club softball (1 semester), habitat for humanity ( 1 year), Circle K - 1 semester, volunteer in hospital - 1 semester.</p>

<p>Now it gets interesting, I chose to take a year off to decide between a career in intertidal research or medicine. After a short while, it became abundantly clear that medicine was for me. I volunteered at 2 hospitals, 8 hours a week for this entire year. With this newfound free time I decided to become a big brother of americe as well take part in habitat for humanity again. I worked construction 2 days a week and decided to study my ass off and take the new SATs and SAT 2's.<br>
Results-
New SAT (with writing component)- 2300
SAT 2's - Bio - 800, Chem - 800, physics - 800, whistory - 800
MathII- results have not arrived but i think i did well
I was perfectly content with the option of going back to SUNY Bing as it is a respected pre-medical school. My family started telling me i had a shot at some top colleges ( especially cornell, with the binghamton proximity). Any feedback would be helpful, i just cant seem to rest my mind.</p>

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<p>I think with really good essays and recommendations, you can get into UChi, NYU, and Cornell for sure. Possibly you can also get into UPenn. Do realize though, that a more selective college like one of these will be harder to earn good grades at, so that may mean you'll be less likely to get research opportunities, etc. You want to think about what benefits you individually, and do what you want to do.</p>

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<p>Your retaking the SATs and doing well is really not going to be a factor in the admissions process because you now have 2 years of college under your belt (and your new scores are most likely a reflection of having the college experience under your belt). What you have done in college is definitely going to hold more weight than you new SAT scores (which may be discounted).</p>

<p>The biggest problem with being a junior year transfer is that there are going to be very few spots because fewer people leave at the end of the second year as opposed to leaving at the end of freshman year.</p>

<p>I really don't agree with escape's assessment of your chances because all of your schools wash U and the ivies are going to be an extreme reach because of their rention rates . I would recommend that you look up the common data sets of the schools you are interested in and look for the transfer rate. Schools are going to want to know why you want to transfer (to attend a more "prestigious" school, smaller school, etc. is the wrong answer). You will have to find something really out standing about the the prospective school offers that you can't get.</p>

<p>Keep in mind that because of Katrina, Rita, etc. it is going to be a very different transfer pool this year because you now have displaced students at many of these schools who have had the opportunity to get their foot in the door and may bump you out of the transfer box because they would have a "better reason for requesting a transfer".</p>

<p>Also make sure that you understand the FA policy at all the schools you are interested in because you would be suprised at the number of schools that offere limited or no aid to transfer students.</p>

<p><a href="http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/showthread.php?t=76444%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/showthread.php?t=76444&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>If you are looking into transferring make sure you have a wide variety of schools.</p>

<p>all the best</p>

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Keep in mind that because of Katrina, Rita, etc. it is going to be a very different transfer pool this year because you now have displaced students at many of these schools who have had the opportunity to get their foot in the door and may bump you out of the transfer box because they would have a "better reason for requesting a transfer".

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<p>I am not sure if that is true; for instance, displaced Katrina students were offered 'visiting student' spots at Harvard, but visiting students are not allowed to transfer into the university after their term.</p>

<p>With respect to Rita, there was no mass diplacement of university students. Rice University and the University of Houston are both functioning quite well.</p>

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The biggest problem with being a junior year transfer is that there are going to be very few spots because fewer people leave at the end of the second year as opposed to leaving at the end of freshman year.

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<p>Transfer admit rates are not necessarily dictated by retention rates. Rice University, for instance, as a high retention rate, but they still admit approximately 25% of their Fall transfers.</p>

<p>To be sure, the evidence I have been given runs contrary to your argument; however, as you know, one cannot make generalizations. Some universities prefer junior transfers, some prefer sophomore transfers.</p>

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<p>I very much appreciate all of your responces. The only thing is that some schools, such as ChiU actually would like a submission of the new SATs. I was reasonably sure that much of the SAT work would be discounted. It is just that, its is really only 1 class bringing down my GPA and i believe i took care of that by doing aceing the class a level above it, calc 2, without ever retaking 1. Will the college just get 1 GPA or a list a grades per semester? Once again, thanks for the feedback</p>

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<p>good luck, i think you stand a good chance, and those scores are awesome :) keep up the good work</p>

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<p>I don't think junior transfers are considered seperately from sophomore transfers at many schools, because sometimes not all the credits transfer and a "junior" will be taking lower-level courses anyway. Am I wrong, anyone? Some schools even say they give preference to junior transfers. UChicago accepts 27% of transfers including many junior college students, and I think you have a good chance. And SATs ARE still looked at, even if they are looked at less than they would have been as a freshman applicant.</p>

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<p>Even if sophomore and junior transfers are looked at separately (which I think is incorrect), at many schools the same number of people leave junior year as sophomore year.</p>

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<p>During transfer admissions schools tend to round out their classes. They do not increase the number of students. </p>

<p>Transfer admissions</p>

<p>Dartmouth- 305 applied , 34 admitted acceptance rate 11%</p>

<p><a href="http://www.dartmouth.edu/%7Eoir/pdfs/cds_200405_02.pdf%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www.dartmouth.edu/~oir/pdfs/cds_200405_02.pdf&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>NYU- 4086 applied , 1289 admitted 31.5% admit rate
<a href="http://www.nyu.edu/ir/pdf/cds0405.pdf%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www.nyu.edu/ir/pdf/cds0405.pdf&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>Penn- From theior FAQs
Is the admit rate higher for transfer students than it is for incoming freshmen?
No, these admission rates tend to be about the same-roughly 20%.
<a href="http://www.alumni.upenn.edu/aca/transfer.html%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www.alumni.upenn.edu/aca/transfer.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>Vanderbilt- 404 applied, 111 admitted 27.4 admit rate
<a href="http://virg.vanderbilt.edu/virg/option1/virg1_flash.htm%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://virg.vanderbilt.edu/virg/option1/virg1_flash.htm&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>Northwestern- 615 applied, 210 accepted 34.1%
<a href="http://ugadm.northwestern.edu/commondata/2004-05/d.htm%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://ugadm.northwestern.edu/commondata/2004-05/d.htm&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>Cornell- 2303 applied (all schools) 766 admitted (all schools) admit rate 33.2% which depending on the school may be higehr/lower.</p>

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<p>Ahhh, i appreciate the input. I have just read over the NYU tansfer admission website and it appears as if they dont take kindly to SATs taken during college. That is a bit dissipointing considering i had nyu and carnagie mellon as match schools. Nevertheless, i believe my chances at cornell are probably the highest of the colleges listed. Thanks for the encouragement and critisism</p>

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<p>Oh, would anyone be able to tell me which schools would be considered matches or even safties? SUNY Binghamton, while not a top tier college, is no joke of a school. The atmosphere is a bit depressing, but it is considered the top State university school on new york</p>

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<p>Cornell has the higest percentage of accepted students, but they also draw a very strong applicant pool, and the numbers are highly skewed by the whole "guarantee transfer" thing. The GT students constitute the vast majority of transfer students to ILR, College of ag. and life science, and Human Ecology. They treat the GT's as both accepted freshmen and transfers. If you take these students out of the mix, the true acceptance rate for transfers to Cornell is in the mid to low 20's. </p>

<p>If you're transfering with junior status, SATs wont matter much. If you get an A in college chemistry, you sure as hell better get at least a 750 in SATII chem. You'd have to explain your whole grade thing to admissions.</p>

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<p>you might end up having to retake calculus 1 because most colleges require a grade of C or better for the credit to trasfer.</p>

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<p>Grrr....I really want to go to Cornell so bad... I don't want to be on the outside looking in.</p>