Chances?

Chance Me / Match Me!
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<p>Hi, just asking anyone out there if they can tell me my chances of getting into these colleges with my credentials:</p>

<p>-I live in Providence, RI, I'm Chinese (adopted) and attend a very reputable private school. Class size of about 360? College graduation year- 2014. I wrote my college essay about being Asian technically but growing up with identity issues.<br>
-I come from a middle income family, legacy at Brown (but don't plan on applying there), but nowhere else.<br>
-My intended major changes a lot, but probably something along the lines of International Health/Public Health (I want to work with Doctors without Borders).
-No class rank, but I'm most likely in the top 10%.
-I don't know the GPA on a 4.0 scale, but unweighted 92, weighted 100.
-SAT I (CR 640, Math 700, Writing 690. 1340 composite, 2030 total)
-SAT II (Math II 670, Chemistry 680, Spanish [reading only] 720). Took them again in November, waiting on results (Math I, Math II, Literature).
-AP Exams (Chemistry 4, English Language 4, Spanish Language 4)
-Currently enrolled in: AP Calculus BC, AP Physics B, AP English Literature & Composition, AP United States Government & Politics, AP Computer Science A.
-Varsity Cheerleading, Varsity Track, JV Tennis.
-Bunches of Extracurriculars that include National Honor Society, National Spanish Honor Society, Chorus, Student Ambassadors, Computer Club, Robotics FIRST, Tutoring, Math League, American Computer Science League, Calculus League, Mandarin Club and probably more that I can't remember right now.
-Also enrolled in Chinese at the sophomore level at Bryant University, 4.0 GPA so far.</p>

<p>College List:</p>

<p>-Fordham University (early action)
-American University
-Tulane University (early action)
-Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute (7-year medical program)
-George Washington University (7-year medical program)
-Brandeis University
-McGill University
-Georgetown University (early action)
-Johns Hopkins University
-Emory University (university scholars program)
-Tufts University
-Washington University in St. Louis (medical program)
-Carnegie Mellon University
-Boston College
-and possibly Providence College and/or URI as additional safeties if necessary.</p>

<p>Please let me know, and tell me what I can do to improve my chances or if I should modify my list! Thanks!</p>

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<p>You won’t get into the 7 year med programs. You likely won’t get into CMU or Tufts or Wash U unless your SATs go up A LOT. You need some more safeties, tho I am not familiar with Emory, Fordham and Tulane. It’s OK, 7 year programs are pressure-cookers, and before you settle down to the grind of being a doctor, you should enjoy life and mature a little. I applied to 2 7 year programs when I was 17, and thank God I didn’t get in. I’m still a doctor, but the extra year allowed me to enjoy college more. I had 770/780 SAT1 and 780/770/790 SAT2s with a 95 GPA, 10th in my class of 760 kids…</p>

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<p>Thanks!
By the way, I believe I’m within range for CMU, but definitely not for Tufts or WashU. . .they’re super reach schools, I don’t even know why I’m applying there!
And in regards to not having enough safeties, I believe I have at least three on there (Fordham, American, Tulane + possibly URI and PC, though I haven’t decided yet). Thanks again!</p>

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<p>Please help guys!! Thanks!</p>

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<p>-Fordham University (early action)- Safety
-American University- Safety
-Tulane University (early action)- Safety/ Match
-Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute (7-year medical program)- Prolly a reach, the college itself is a reach.
-George Washington University (7-year medical program)
-Brandeis University
-McGill University
-Georgetown University (early action)- high Reach
-Johns Hopkins University - High match/ Lower Reach
-Emory University (university scholars program) - Reach
-Tufts University - High Reach
-Washington University in St. Louis (medical program)
-Carnegie Mellon University -Reach
-Boston College - High Reach
-and possibly Providence College and/or URI as additional safeties if necessary.</p>

<p>You must raise those SAT scores before considering Carnegie, BC, and Georgetown. Hopefully, your SAT II scores go up, too.</p>

<p>If you raise your scores, you might have a shot for those 7 Year programs. Maybe slightly lower reaches that CMU, BC, and Georgetown, but still pretty hard.</p>

<p>Are the 7 year programs such that if you’re not accepted there, you’re offered admission to the regular college? If so, go for it.</p>

<p>Do you have any leadership positions, or any one strong extra curricular interest that makes itself apparent through your activities? The old saying is Depth, not Breadth.</p>

<p>Other than that, strong GPA, decent ECs, excellent courseload.
How are your teacher recs? It’s more important to ask teachers who know you well personally and outside the classroom than people who gave you straight As.</p>

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<p>I believe that if I’m rejected from the 7-year med programs, I will still be put in the regular applicant pool. I started the Mandarin Club, I run the Computer Club, that’s all for leadership. I work at a local school in an ESL classroom to volunteer too. </p>

<p>I got awesome teachers to write recommendations because I started early (first day of senior year). . .PrecalcBC, AP English, AP Gov, Chinese (professor from Bryant where I take chinese, who also studied abroad with me).</p>

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<p>Professor rec… noicee</p>

<p>Started a Mandarin Club and enrolled in a Chinese college class in which you’re doing well… ok, there’s the depth we’re looking for xD</p>

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<p>Thanks! Is there anything, at this point that I can do to improve my chances?</p>

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<p>Make sure that your grades are trending up, a 92 is not very competitive. </p>

<p>I really think your math/science SATs make you look like you aren’t as good at Math as your ECs and grades, so I would get a tutor. Those Math SATs are disproportionately important for science/premed, because that is what most people wash out on-the math in college sciences.
Also the class that correlates best with success in med school is organic Chem, so the chem score won’t help you either, even if you do have a weighted 100.It looks like grade inflation.
How about looking at a smaller, less selective school with a good rate of getting people in to med school-Juniata comes to mind, and it’s in PA, so you could visit.You might even get merit aid there.
I’m not trying to be mean, just realistic.I was on the med school admissions committee at the U of R and UMASS</p>

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<p>No, no, I understand and I thank you sincerely for your input. I had a bad freshman year, so the grades are trending upwards. Should I not send the AP Chem score then, if that is what you’re saying? I retook the SAT IIs, so here’s hoping I did better in math. . .do you think it helps that I took BC and stuff, because it probably hurt my grades that I took the harder calculus.</p>

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<p>-Fordham: Safety
-American: Safety
-Tulane: Safety
-Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute (7-year medical program): Match-Reach
-George Washington University (7-year medical program): BIG Reach (this program only accepts 14 kids, I would take it off)
-Brandeis University: Reasonable-BIG Reach
-McGill University: Low-Reasonable Reach
-Georgetown: BIG Reach (unfortunately, man, this is virtually an impossible reach, I’d take it off)
-Johns Hopkins University: BIG Reach (same as G-Town)
-Emory University (university scholars program): Reasonable-BIG Reach
-Tufts University: same as G-Town and Hopkins
-Washington University in St. Louis (medical program): no medical program and you have a slight chance
-Carnegie Mellon University: BIG Reach (you’re picking schools that are outside your range)
-Boston College: Reasonable Reach</p>

<p>Georgetown, Hopkins, GW Med (regular admission, then it’s a match) Mellon, and Tufts, unfortunately, are way outside your range… your UW GPA is way too low (and these schools will re-calculate), SAT’s are mediocre (for these schools)… and the EC’s can only help so much</p>

<p>Defintiely put Providence on… honestly, you’re too good for URI, leave that on; I’d also suggest Rochester Institute of Technology, University of Rochester, Lehigh, Bucknell, Boston University Med Program, Texas-Austin, and Michigan</p>

<p>All these schools are within your range, matches-low reaches</p>

<p>If you wanted to apply to those schools, espec. for med, your math/science scores need to be in the 700’s and your SAT sub-section had to be much higher… and you would need at least a 1400 to consider them</p>

<p>Hope this helps!!</p>

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<p>Thanks so much, I applied to the med programs for kicks, honestly, and I figure I’ll still be considered for regular admission if and when denied. Tufts and WashU are gone. . .
In regards to JHU, I’m pretty much within range for gpa and SAT scores. . .
I’m applying to the Nursing/International Health school at Georgetown, which is slightly less competitive, which puts me in better contention, though it is the toughest school on my list. CMU, I’m within range, I’m surprised that it’s so competitive, according to everyone who has responded, but I’ll take your words for it. BU, I haven’t even looked into yet because I’m concerned about the size, but I’ll check it out. Thanks, it’s been great help from all of you!!!</p>