Chancing for Stanford

Hey there - I know this is a fairly inexact ‘science’, but as an international student I really have zero ideas about where I stand. Thanks in advance, though :).


Demographics:

  • Male
  • International (New Zealand)
  • Caucasian
  • 18 Years Old (Undergraduate application)

Intended major(s):

  • Computer Science
  • Economics

Academics:

ACT: n/a
SAT: 1510/1600
SAT II: 750 Physics, 710 Literature
Class rank: 3/400 UW/W
GPA: n/a (International Student)
Coursework: IB Predicted 44 out of 45. HL Maths: 7, HL Physics: 7, HL Economics: 7, SL English Lit: 7, SL Chemistry: 7, SL French: 6.

(IB Scores are out of 7. Roughly, 7 = A+, 6 = A, 5 = B/B+ etc. Also sitting domestic scholarship examinations, which I guess are similar to AP? IB and these scholarships are the most challenging courses available at my school.)

Also, I would consider myself a good writer (essay wise). I’ve written my Common App and Supplementary Essays, and feedback has been very positive from everyone I’ve checked them with, including one woman who got into Harvard who has been helping me work things out. Hopefully my essays should be up to par.


Awards:

  • Possible finalist in local University Engineering Competition (not confirmed yet, but have been told we have a really good shot... Waiting on this)
  • Academic Colours (school-based award for top performing scholars).
  • National Statistics Scholarship 2015 (sat the examination a year in advance and received the scholarship)

Extracurriculars:

  • School Prefect (Leadership Role - not sure if Prefect is a 'thing' in America...)
  • Run successful technology company (~$100,000/p.a. turnover). Running a team of around 5 full time. Have clients in USA, Australia, New Zealand, England.
  • Sold previous technology company (amount and intellectual property covered under non-disclosure agreement)
  • Involved with fundraising for schools in third world countries (created a fundraiser which also set a world record while we participated in it).
  • Premier Road Cycling Captain at my school (5th at Nationals for Time Trial, 18th at Nationals for Points Race, so nationally ranked fairly highly).
  • Was invited to meetings in Silicon Valley with Google, Google X, IDEO, Inflection and Stanford off the back of my entrepreneurial success - was flown up to North America for these meetings. (largely why I'm interested in Stanford). Do a lot of work in the international technology space.
  • Local Economics Competitions (placings etc.)
  • Triathlon (National Team Duathlon Champion 2015).
  • Duke of Edinburgh Bronze, Silver, Gold (might not be well recognised in USA, but this involves several 'adventurous journeys' - for me, this was tramping and kayaking for a week or so at a time), as well as compulsory service, sport and skill components which I haven't listed out here.

Schools:

  • Stanford Early Decision
  • Elsewhere? (Heart really set on Stanford...)

Questions:

Anywhere else I could apply to? I’m not pursuing financial aid, as I think it may hinder my chances of acceptance. Inspired by Stanford’s great technology influence and entrepreneurial culture.
Have considered MIT but unsure.
Wouldn’t go if it wasn’t somewhere fairly good because it’s just too expensive to justify otherwise - a long way from home!
Generally, I’m feeling a bit despondent…
I have offers from Universities ‘down-under’, but have set my heart on the US, and have seen amazing and super-qualified candidates turned down, so really have no idea where I stand.

Thanks for any help you can give! I’d really appreciate any ideas about where I generally am.

As an entrepreneur I would think you understand risk/reward analysis. If its your school you got to apply EA and don’t look back. You’re qualified, maybe too thinly stretched, looks like you’re just trying to get Into a good school. App looks like typical Stanford app minus TechStartup. With EA maybe 20%. Maybe If your essay doesn’t reiterate your resume. You’re a beast man never settle. MIT, Caltech, John Hopkins, Tsinghua are also good schools to consider. Good luck guy

Cheers man. To be honest, I only decided to apply for the US this year… After meeting with a Professor there, as I mentioned, I was just so inspired. Never really structured my life around getting in and only took the SAT once etc.
What do you mean about being stretched too thin? Should I mention less extra curriculars etc?
Thanks for your help.

Because so many people do a large amount of things just to get into college, when you think about it logically, nearly everyone applying to those schools have almost the same credentials i.e High GPA/SAT and a bunch of EC’s. With only 2000 slots and 25000 qualified applications of course it will be a crap shoot. Only way to differentiate yourself from the pack is instead of just listing a comprehensive EC list, Conceptualize your strengths and the most influential parts of your life. Colleges want rich and well known future alumni, they don’t care necessarily about you being a road cycling captain per se if youre trying to be a wealthy entrepreneur. Be that, capitalize on it. Personally I would think a few strategically placed EC’s that show real passion, rest of the application aside, looks more influential than a bunch of things that the college probably assumes you only did to get into their school.

There is a good article by Prep scholar that you should see its called “How to get into Harvard and the Ivy League, by a Harvard Alum” it makes sense and is really worth a read.

@Bjuveges “they don’t care necessarily about you being a road cycling captain per se if youre trying to be a wealthy entrepreneur”. Colleges want a well rounded class, not a well rounded student, right?

@ElNero Exactly. when 80% of all the apps are nearly all the same, qualified students, you need to have a niche, otherwise youre expendable.

@Bjuveges Hmmm okay - I’ll have a think about that, thanks :). I just thought it might look good to demonstrate that yeah, SATs are probably good enough, IB score is definitely good enough and I have this company, but also nationally ranked athlete and leader in the sport. This process has been the most difficult thing I’ve ever undertaken, definitely! Thanks for all your help though, I really appreciate it.

@ElNero so you’re saying I should present myself as a component in making a well rounded class, or as an all rounder generally?

@AspiringKiwi Sincerely, I don’t know :stuck_out_tongue: It looks like you are very good at sports and entrepreneurship, so I think you should include them in your application. I’d say I’m in a similar situation (astronomy and entrepreneurship)

Every one of the ECs you listed are impressive. As long as you’ve spent a lot of time in each one of them list them. Just don’t set your hopes too high on Stanford. I believe the acceptance rate last year was about 3% for internationals. You have a great resume and I’m sure plenty of prestigious STEM colleges would love to have you. Be sure to apply to more than just Stanford if you’re set on coming to college in America. I’d hate for a student as qualified as yourself to be left without a school.

Just a few ideas of other schools to apply to:

MIT
UT Austin
Georgia Tech
Cornell
UC Berkeley
Carnegie Mellon
Cal Tech
UCLA
Michigan
University of Illinois

@Jpgranier Awesome, will look into those, cheers!

Go for it!