cheaters cheaters pumpkin eaters

<p>ChaosTheory--
It is, of course, a generalization. I'm thoroughly ready to acknowledge that there are exceptions. :)</p>

<p>There seems to be far more academic competition among CCers than I am comfortable with, coupled with, it sometimes seems, less actual interest in academic subjects--the focus is on winning, competing, being #1. I just love to learn and, as it turns out, I'm good at it. I figure I'm good at a lot of things, both academic and non-academic. I haven't had all that many "opportunities" to enter contests and be competitive in the same ways that, say, priviliged private school/highly-ranked public school students have. I'm from a relatively low-income family, with college-educated parents (one of whom is a "homemaker," the other a high school teacher); we live in a small house that's been in the family for generations (so we didn't really "buy" it), wear used clothing, raise chickens and ducks, have a big garden, have traveled in Europe and Latin America while maintaining a rather spare and unmaterialistic lifestyle. I was homeschooled until high school, with a few full/part-time years of public school before. I know that my upbringing has been very different from that of even my peers in my school, much less my "peers" in the ultra-selective college application pool (who seem to constitute quite a large percentage of CCers). My values aren't the same as a lot of people's, especially not those people who think it's important to be an ASB officer and president of every club they're in, plus win half a dozen national-level contests, be valedictorian and have all SAT scores above 750... </p>

<p>Many CCers seem like they're trying really, really hard to prove that they're better than the next person, without actually perhaps being "better" (if there is any "better" to be had, considering the vast variety of personalities and strengths that can exist). That bothers me. I'm probably the top student in my high school, but to me, the important things are kindness and integrity and not driving myself crazy with striving after perfection. I like to have fun. I love my friends. I love to learn. I love to write and I love foreign languages... I think love makes up quite a large part of my personality. I don't really feel that among CCers.</p>

<p>I could go on, but... well... openly criticizing a group of people with very little provision for those who don't fit my generalization isn't a particularly smart idea. Although it's nice to get it off my chest. :)</p>

<p>"cheating" is life. In the real world, its not the people with the brains and a high sense of "morality" that make the 6 figure salaries. Its the people sly eough to find connections and loopholes in society.</p>

<p>Chaos,</p>

<p>most of us take turns doing homework for a certain class; mostly math and science classes. my english and history teachers do not assign busywork so we don't do any sort of cheating there.</p>

<p>it may seem over the top but it has been quite effective.</p>

<p>i totally agree with Asian3rd. you better get used to cheating now... cause life is about cheating. Ask most successful busineess people, and they will say that they cheated somehow inorder to become succesful (taking credit where credit is not due, lieing, etc). Success comes when you take the path never/rarely taken. Risks develop in the proccess. It even says in my school's rules -"You can cheat all you want..... as long as you don't get caught". If you do get caught------ suspension, permanent record, blah. Thats why you cheat when you have the side of advantage, and the teacher doesn't. For example, lets say you sit VERY far away from your calculus teacher during a quiz. Then write a couple notes on a notecard and hide it under you sleeves or calculator lid.(i have developed the ultimate cheating method... but i seriously rarely cheat) Simple yet effective.</p>

<p>IMPORTANT IMPORTANT IMPORTANT: extreme cheaters in highschool will never prosper because they will definetly not succeed in college guaranteed (you can't cheat in college, way to much risk, cheating is the difference from being a doctor to a teacher... SERIOUSLy!). People who sparely cheat during high school have developed the sense of opposing righteuous rule... further increasing their experience with risk and success... further increasing life strategies... further increasing confidence... further increasing slyness... further increasing the potential to ruin one's day and enlightening their own day... further increasing one's awareness with luck and chance... further increasing success.</p>

<p>As I said, if you cheat, you're only cheating yourself.</p>

<p>what does eating pumkins have to do with cheating? It sounds nice but doesn't make any sense. :)</p>

<p>It's an old saying here, but I guess since you're in Egypt you don't know it.
It's like a nursery rhyme.</p>

<p>.-_-.</p>

<p>stuck-on-1700...</p>

<p>Peter, Peter, pumpkin eater,
Had a wife and couldn't keep her;
He put her in a pumpkin shell,
And there he kept her very well.</p>

<p>Here's food for thought...so if I and a friend got together and I let him copy my english for his math and we both believed we had gotten an equal trade (for all you economists), is it still considered cheating even though we both believe that we are "trading" equally?</p>

<p>I love it how so many people here cheat to just get a better grade, no morals at all! Oh well, lets see how your "cheating" will play out when you are in the REAL WORLD</p>

<p>md4me: it sounds like you're just trying to justify your cheating when you knokw that it's wrong.</p>

<p>Cutting corners out of laziness does not equate with "becoming a successful person with a high salary!!!!11" The richest doctors, lawyers, and bankers are paid as much as they are because they 1. can be counted on to do high quality work and not cut corners 2. work their asses off. Seriously, look at their hours.</p>

<p>News flash, kirklandalanbob - the real world is all about cheating and BSing. That's how people get ahead. There are a lot of @$$holes who don't do any work, yet still get promoted because they suck up to someone or have friends in high places. I don't like it, but unfortunately that's the way it is. If you do everything the "right" way, you'll get stepped on and screwed over.</p>

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News flash, kirklandalanbob - the real world is all about cheating and BSing. That's how people get ahead. There are a lot of @$$holes who don't do any work, yet still get promoted because they suck up to someone or have friends in high places. I don't like it, but unfortunately that's the way it is. If you do everything the "right" way, you'll get stepped on and screwed over.

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you endorse cheating? </p>

<p>I think people are attending church less these days</p>

<p>oh, and I DO respect people who do everything the "right" way like doctors... They work long shifts, study hard in medical school and college, and work a HELL LOT to get to where they are. I have no respect for anyone that cheats. They belong in sewage wastes</p>

<p>I don't endorse cheating. Cheating sucks. I'm just saying that the real world is full of it, and that it evidently works. Didn't I say in my post that "I don't like it"?</p>

<p>On a side note, going to church has nothing to do with the topic. I know kids that go to church and still cheat in school.</p>

<p>Not everybody's christian or religious , ya know. It has nothing to do with morals.</p>

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I think people are attending church less these days

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<p>So what. are you saying that people who are non-christian or don't adhere to a religion dont have morals? You're deluded.</p>

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<p>umm you basically are ignorant. I dont think even Jesus would like you. And that says a lot.</p>

<p>^^Lol, I love how you have nothing better to do than to insult people on the internet... BTW, I don't feel insulted</p>