Chemistry and Math Majors are more likely to be virgins?

[colboy]

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<p>This graph came from a survey at Wellesley correlating academic major and virginity. Entire article is here <a href="http://www.gnxp.com/blog/2007/04/intercourse-and-intelligence.php%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www.gnxp.com/blog/2007/04/intercourse-and-intelligence.php&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>I guess I have to switch my major from biology to neuroscience...</p>

[ThatPoshGirl]

<p>LOL. Studio Art majors are a bunch of tramps and dogs.</p>

[BetterThanYouAre]

<p>That is an all Woman’s college mind you. No way in a co-ed school would CS majors be under 50%, and Psych majors be over 50%. As a neuroscience major myself there is no ****ing way that 75% of the girls in my classes have ever been with a guy.</p>

<p>I know there are exceptions, but generally, the more “rigorous” a major is, the <em>lower</em> proportion of students in it are girls, and a <em>higher</em> proportion of the girls in it are busted, and therefore less likely to ever have slept with a guy. Obviously there are exceptions (and please don’t reply telling me i’m wrong because of some anecdote), but more often than not, this is how it goes.</p>

[Myrmidon73]

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[Kaley89]

<p>Only 65 percent of MIT graduate students have had sex? Lol…</p>

[b_r_um]

<p>Lol at the article.</p>

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One reason we might guess that smarter people in high school, or in more challenging colleges or majors, delay their sexual debuts is because they are delaying gratification in expectation of future reward. (…)</p>

<p>Another idea is that smarter people are more risk averse, and delaying these activities is a byproduct of enhanced concerns about unwanted pregnancy and disease. While not avoiding sexual behaviors, per se, they are just less likely to seek it out or consent to it for fear of the potential consequences.</p>

<p>Another idea is that smarter people are more religious or more ethically conservative, and are trying harder to wait for marriage to have sex.

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<p>How about, some smart people are geeks who care more about their physics problem set or the robot they are building than a romantic relationship?</p>

[Klockan3]

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How about, some smart people are geeks who care more about their physics problem set or the robot they are building than a romantic relationship?

Edited my post to this:
Why did you leave out this quote?

This would fit Aldus Huxley’s alleged definition of an intellectual as a person who’s found one thing that’s more interesting than sex.

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<p>And you forgot the conclusion:

So intelligent people have lower libidos and less masculine physiques. What hormone is responsible for both sex drive and masculine builds? That’s right: testosterone.</p>

<p>And two new papers suggest that testosterone may depress IQ. One team found that salivary testosterone levels were lower for preadolescent boys with IQs above 130 and below 70. (the same two groups most likely to be virgins in adolescence)

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[Son_of_Opie]

<p>One of the main reasons I was in the choir for four years in college. Not as much fun to be had as soley a science major.</p>

<p>Edit: Where is the data on music and theater majors? I imagine they’d be more to the left of the graph.</p>

[galoisien]

<p>You just gotta find people who you click with.</p>

[Russell7]

<p>83% virgins? ahahahaha. I don’t know if I believe that. Is this sample only for freshman or something? Either way, not sure if I believe it.</p>

<p>Even psych/bio majors who are usually completely normal people the % is in the 70s. Doesn’t seem possible.</p>

[stargazerlilies]

<p>^ This is an all-women’s college, which I think attracts a certain type of student. </p>

<p>I think it’s funny the neuroscience students are getting laid but the bio ones aren’t. maybe it’s behavioral neuro?
i noticed Engineering wasn’t on the list, probably so far to the right it dropped off. although now that I think about it, there’s probably not an Engineering major at an artsy all-girls school like Wellesley anyhow.</p>

[b_r_um]

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And two new papers suggest that testosterone may depress IQ. One team found that salivary testosterone levels were lower for preadolescent boys with IQs above 130 and below 70. (the same two groups most likely to be virgins in adolescence)

Has anyone ever mentioned that correlation =!= causation?</p>

[Son_of_Opie]

<p>^Everyone always says that when the correlation implies something they don’t agree with. I’ve done it myself. It doesn’t seem like preadolescent boys would have a lot of testosterone in the first place.</p>

[Klockan3]

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Has anyone ever mentioned that correlation =!= causation?

If you look at that quote it said “testosterone may depress IQ”, you idiot who tries to look smart by using that mantra without really understanding anything yourself. Correlation do not equal causation but it implies that there might be causation, exactly like they said.</p>

[b_r_um]

<p>First off, I am a girl so I don’t take too much pride in my testosterone levels. </p>

<p>You are right, I disagree with the conclusion. I do think that simple correlation is a lot more likely than direct causation. For example, kids with a lot of testosterone might have more energy, thus being more likely to be physically active and spend less time with “intellectually stimulating” activities. The result is a difference in measured IQ. But it wasn’t really the testosterone that caused their IQ score to be low - it was how the kids spent their time.</p>

<p>The only way you are going to convince me that “testosterone depresses intelligence” is if you mess with someone’s testosterone levels while everything else stays constant (daily routine, social reinforcements, etc) and show me that his/her IQ changes.</p>

[galoisien]

<p>^^ steroids and intelligence</p>

[ccmetz2020]

<p>I find it funny how only 25% of neuroscience majors are virgins while the other science majors seem to have a much higher percentage!</p>

[Son_of_Opie]

<p>If they want help fixing that, I know a guy… ;)</p>

[Klockan3]

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First off, I am a girl so I don’t take too much pride in my testosterone levels. </p>

<p>You are right, I disagree with the conclusion. I do think that simple correlation is a lot more likely than direct causation. For example, kids with a lot of testosterone might have more energy, thus being more likely to be physically active and spend less time with “intellectually stimulating” activities. The result is a difference in measured IQ. But it wasn’t really the testosterone that caused their IQ score to be low - it was how the kids spent their time.</p>

<p>The only way you are going to convince me that “testosterone depresses intelligence” is if you mess with someone’s testosterone levels while everything else stays constant (daily routine, social reinforcements, etc) and show me that his/her IQ changes.

Well, even if it causes it indirectly it still depresses intelligence. It is like arguing that having freons in the atmosphere do not cause the UV absorption to go down if everything else remains equal.</p>

<p>The point is of course that everything else do not remain equal if you put freons there, same with if you put testosterone in a boy he will no longer be exactly the same boy.</p>

<p>The only time this correlation would not mean causation is if an effect which increases testosterone also depresses intelligence, then it is this other effect which depresses intelligence and not testosterone which means that if you simply injects testosterone in a person his intelligence would go unaffected due to the other effect not taking place.</p>

<p>Or, another way could be that being intelligent depresses your testosterone levels.</p>

[starling]

<p>lol funny…</p>