Chicago vs. Northwestern

<p>mwbashful18 - I know that Studio 22 is one student filmaking studio...they have a number of "Freshman Grant Films" they put out every year, which are written, shot, performed, and directed by freshman.</p>

<p>HAHA that cheer was my brother's high school cheer. Except a little different:</p>

<p>Themistocles, Thucidides, the Peloponnesian Wars,
X-squared, Y-squared, H2S04,
French verbs, Latin verbs, ancient history,
UTS! UTS! The school of varsity!</p>

<p>haha good times.
interestingly enough, when my dad and I visited NU and UofC during the same weekend, he noted that my brother went to a UofC kind of school while I go to a Northwestern type of school... props to my pops for that one</p>

<p>Go to Northwestern if you're interested in:
- engineering
- a specialized program like journalism, communication, or music
- pre-professional studies (law, med, biz)</p>

<p>Go to Chicago if you're interested in:
- grad school
- being nerdy</p>

<p>"- pre-professional studies (law, med, biz)"</p>

<p>NU has a business school for undergrads?</p>

<p>No, but it still has some programs linked with Kellogg, as well as a great Econ department, a business minor, and a lot of pre-professional opportunities.</p>

<p>im_blue put it well. The schools are very different, and one needs to find the school that fits one's personality. Of course, my preference is the University of Chicago, but that is because I think it a "good fit" for me.</p>

<p>Both schools are excellent, of course.</p>

<p>Pre-law at Chicago is excellent as well</p>

<p>I would say that Northwestern and the University of Chicago are both on par with each other academically.</p>

<p>"No, but it still has some programs linked with Kellogg, as well as a great Econ department, a business minor, and a lot of pre-professional opportunities."</p>

<p>Yeah I'm applying to transfer to both schools as a economics major. I still don't know which one I'd go if I get in to both. I heard UChicago is decent in economics dept as well...</p>

<p>Since this thread compares both colleges, I think there should be rankings for both. 2005 edition though.</p>

<p>First number is Chicago's rank and the other is Northwestern's. I didn't include the Health Disciplines because, well, I didnt want to. If you want me to I will, but I think NU had the lead there just by a quick glance.</p>

<pre><code> UChicago Northwestern
</code></pre>

<p>School of Law 6 10</p>

<p>School of Medicine 22 20</p>

<p>Business 6 5</p>

<p>Schools of Education X 11</p>

<p>Engineering X 20</p>

<p>Public Affairs 17 X</p>

<p>The Sciences </p>

<p>Biological Sciences 20 36
Chemistry 14 12
Computer Science X X
Geology 10 X
Applied Mathematics 18 14
Mathematics 6 21
Physics 7 28</p>

<p>Social Sciences and Humanities </p>

<p>Economics 2 8
English 5 18
History 5 15
Political Science 8 20
Psychology 30 17
Sociology 3 9</p>

<p>Master of Fine Arts X X</p>

<p>where did you get these numbers? I know, for example, that according to US News, MIT and UChicago are tied for first in Econ</p>

<p>US news 2005 version.</p>

<p>
[quote]
Pre-law at Chicago is excellent as well

[/quote]

Well, there's no pre-law major. The only measure of a good "pre-law" undergrad is that it's easy to get a high GPA and looks prestigious. In this regard, I'd say Northwestern is better than Chicago because they're about equal in prestige, yet Northwestern has grade inflation.</p>

<p>If there is serious grade inflation in a school, especially if its a well known school like NU, Law schools will take that into account... While I agree that I wouldnt mind grade inflation too much, I think that keeping things 'normal' is necessary to distinguish the better students. I'm not usually the best student in the class or whatnot so this wouldnt apply to me, but I would rather have the oppurtunity to be rewarded for working harder and earning a good grade rather than not working too much (not to say that NU kids dont work hard, Im just making a general comment) and having most people getting good grades. You don't seem to like Chicago that much im_blue lol. I wouldnt think youd be a good match anyway, and I dont mean that in a bad way. </p>

<p>At this point Im personally hoping to go to UChicago, but studying isnt my fav. thing to do so I dont know...</p>

<p>On the contrary, I would have picked Chicago over Northwestern if they offered engineering. I'm a grad student now, so Chicago is a good fit for me. Also, law schools don't correct for grade inflation, even though it makes sense to. A lot of Ivies have even more grade inflation than Northwestern, and their grads place better than their GPA/LSAT combination would predict. By the same token, MIT and Caltech grads don't get into very good law schools because of their lower GPAs.</p>

<p>"The only people who think the University of Chicago is in the ghetto are rich, whitebread kids who probably lived in Evanston their whole lives"</p>

<p>Oh really? I'm not sure which University of Chicago you're referring to, but the one on the southside of Chicago in Hyde Park is definitely surrounded by ghetto. In fact, I was just down at 63rd and Cottage Grove yesterday and I can assure you it was definitely ghetto. I work with people who grew up there, and they think it's the ghetto. Now don't get me wrong, the campus itself is very pretty and relatively safe, but I wouldn't recommend getting wasted on a Saturday night and accidentally walking 2 blocks south.</p>

<p>U of C is -surrounded- by ghetto, but it is not in fact in the ghetto. Hyde Park is a great neighborhood and I wouldn't mind living there at all. 63rd and Cottage Grove is ghetto, and close to HP - but HP itself is not ghetto.</p>

<p>P.S. Do you think the 63/Grove stop is more ghetto than Garfield/Red or Garfield/Green?</p>

<p>Fair enough. I agree that Hyde Park is a decent neighborhood...not my first choice of places to live in Chicago, but nice enough. My point was only that you don't have to wander too far to find yourself in a place you probably don't want to be.</p>

<p>Agreed, agreed. It's not my first choice either, there's plenty of nice neighborhoods - especially trending Northwest. My biggest problem is Chicago's gun laws, and no neighborhood will solve those.</p>

<p>If you live in HP, you definitely want to know the area, because crossing one street can and will make a big difference. You didn't answer my PS :(</p>

<p>As for your P.S., I am unable to answer the question due to lack of knowledge on the subject. Most of my south and westside experience lies in Hyde Park or getting off the Skyway early due to construction and having to find my way to Lakeshore. Sorry!</p>

<p>Honestly grad schools DO NOT correct for grade inflation so for law going to the best school with the most inflation (i.e. Brown, Harvard, Stanford) is the best strategy.</p>