<p>Goblue, we aren't arguing, but I think you are overanalyzing. There just isn't enough to suggest that there is a difference in prestige or that prestige place a role in placement success. You are wanting to see something that isn't there. Placement rates for students wth 25-29 MCAT score and 30-34 MCAT scores are virtually identical at both schools. There is a slight difference between the placement rate of Michigan applicants with 35+ MCAT scores and Cornell applicants with 35+ MCAT scores, but given the low number of applicants with such high MCATs, it is difficult to make an informed observation.</p>
<p>goblue, since u seem to be choosing btwn cornell and nu...i say that u should choose based on cost, fit, geographic/campus preference, etc. academically, these two are pretty similar. but, most hs students who have the choice btwn NU and Cornell tend to pick Cornell....(cornell tends to win in cross-admit battle)</p>
<p>Can you explain the 62/55% difference on the site for Michigan, if you know what I'm talking about? That seems to be a pretty big difference.</p>
<p>In response to post #78, there was a thread a while back about the ridiculous grade inflation at Cornell. This might explain the higher GPA's, but it doesn't seem to be harming the overall med school acceptance rate, so I don't know.</p>
<p>goblue, I was only tying to help. I think your financial health is worth considering. You should obviously do what you feel is right. If you honestly believe you will improve your chances by attending Cornell or NU, go for it.</p>
<p>But to answer your question, there is no discrepancy. It just seems that Michigan made a small error in calculation. It states that 340 applicants out of 603 were admitted into Medical school. That's actually equal to 55%, not 62%. But like I said, for students of equal calibre, there is almost no difference between Cornell and Michigan. Michigan's overall placement rate is lower than Cornell's primarily because a great deal more underqualified applicants bother submitting applicantions to medical school, eventhough their chances of getting in are not good. </p>
<p>But like I said, given your attitude, you are probably better off going to Cornell or Northwestern. Somehow, you have convinced yourself that you will improve your chances that way.</p>
<p>I'm always amused by kids who are smart enough to be accepted into top 10 schools but yet lack the statistics knowledge to understand that med school placement rates are [nearly] worthless. </p>
<p>OP if you really want to enhance your chance to attend med school, drop down a lot of notches and attend a #50 school (Miami, Tulane) where your chance of obtaining a 3.7 is much, much greater than competing against the 'thousands' of premeds at NU or Cornell.</p>
<p>Hawkette--</p>
<p>Do you have the numbers (YLS, HLS) for Duke, Harvard, and Columbia?</p>
<p>Thanks</p>
<p>brownflavors,
I collected undergraduate data for a few law schools and then pared it down for the colleges that I was interested in. These 50 or so colleges accounted for about 86% of the enrollment at Yale Law and about 75% at Harvard Law.</p>
<p>Below is the complete list for each of these two law schools and all data was taken from their websites. I think that the Harvard data is for two years of classes and the Yale data is for a single class. I don't have any data for Columbia.</p>
<h1>of students in entering class at Harvard Law, Undergraduate College</h1>
<p>241 , Harvard
113 , Yale
79 , Stanford
57 , U Penn
54 , Princeton
48 , Brown
48 , UC Berkeley
46 , Columbia
45 , Cornell
41 , Duke
39 , UCLA
35 , Dartmouth
32 , Georgetown
29 , BYU
27 , U Texas
23 , U Michigan
20 , Northwestern
20 , Notre Dame
20 , NYU
19 , U Virginia
19 , Amherst
18 , Rice
17 , Williams
14 , Emory
13 , MIT
13 , U Chicago
13 , Vanderbilt
13 , USC
13 , UNC
11 , Brandeis
10 , Wash U StL
10 , Swarthmore
9 , U Washington
9 , Pomona
8 , Tufts
7 , CMU
6 , Middlebury
5 , BC
5 , Wesleyan
4 , U Wisconsin
4 , Wellesley
4 , Carleton
3 , J Hopkins
3 , W & M
3 , Bowdoin
2 , Cal Tech
2 , Haverford
2 , Davidson
2 , Vassar
1 , Wake Forest
1 , Lehigh
1 , U Rochester</p>
<h1>of students in entering class at Yale Law, Undergraduate College</h1>
<p>89 , Harvard
86 , Yale
42 , Stanford
34 , Princeton
21 , Columbia
17 , Brown
16 , UC Berkeley
13 , Duke
13 , Dartmouth
12 , Williams
10 , U Virginia
9 , Amherst
7 , U Chicago
7 , Northwestern
7 , Notre Dame
7 , Georgetown
7 , UCLA
7 , Wesleyan
6 , U Penn
6 , Cornell
6 , Swarthmore
5 , U Michigan
5 , USC
5 , UNC
5 , U Wisconsin
5 , U Washington
5 , U Texas
4 , Emory
4 , Brandeis
3 , MIT
3 , Wash U StL
3 , Vanderbilt
3 , W & M
3 , BC
3 , NYU
3 , BYU
2 , J Hopkins
2 , Rice
2 , Middlebury
2 , Pomona
1 , Tufts
1 , Lehigh
1 , Wellesley
1 , Carleton
1 , Bowdoin
1 , Haverford
1 , Vassar
0 , Cal Tech
0 , CMU
0 , Wake Forest
0 , U Rochester
0 , Davidson</p>
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of students in entering class at Harvard Law, Undergraduate College </p>
<p>241 , Harvard
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Looks like Harvard is guilty of academic "inbreeding".</p>
<p>Thanks Hawkette! If there was a 'props' or 'reputation' button on CC, you would get major props/ rep.</p>
<p>Yale Law "doesn't" like Cornell for some reason; a bunch of us could never quite figure it out. But I suspect it has something to do with the more applied and less theoretical interests of Cornell students. It doesn't like UPenn, either.</p>
<p>Brownflavors -- Be careful in using these numbers to create a Wall Street Journal type ranking of schools on a percentage basis. For a lot of these schools, the population of students interested in law school is a lot smaller than the class size. At MIT, for instance, a lot of students aren't interested in law school. At Georgetown, most are.</p>
<p>I'm biased, but I am going to tell you to go to Cornell.</p>
<p>
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Looks like Harvard is guilty of academic "inbreeding".
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<p>Perhaps, but it could also be a grade-inflation factor. #3 on the list is that grade-inflated Junior University Down on the Farm. :D</p>
<p>None of these schools have better polisci+econ departments than Michigan. It's not worth the extra $100K for the academic experience.</p>