<p>Seeking a top tier (or hidden gem with outstanding faculty and focus on undergrads) computer science program with a practical bent (a la CMU) and a broad and rich offering of foreign languages. I am a California resident. SAT 2270 first (and only) pass (800M,750R,720W), SAT II 800 Math ii, 790 Spanish, 790 Bio, 750 Phys. AP Calc AB 5, Comp Sci 5, Spanish 5, Psych 5, Bio 4, Physics 4, APUSH 4. Will take 5 AP senior year for a total of 12 AP. GPA 3.85. Community college GPA 4.0. 2 varsity sports. Multiple ECs. Indifferent on location, size, city/rural. Minimal party scene is a plus. Cost is a consideration. Will have to take on debt to go beyond CA in-state UC. So a private school which gives some grants to get things closer to 50k rather than 60 or (gasp) 65k all-in is preferable. Your recommendations are appreciated.</p>
<p>Berkeley offers good CS and numerous foreign language offerings. CS may be studied within the non-engineering-based L&S CS major that allows for more foreign language electives (it has about 20 fewer units (1/6 of the four year total) of required math, physics, and EE courses compared to the EECS major).</p>
<p>For other schools, you may also want to consider whether the CS major is engineering-based or not; non-engineering-based CS majors may have more free elective space for additional foreign language courses. However, engineering-based CS majors are more likely to have ABET accreditation, if you want that for patent exam purposes (otherwise, you would have to take additional science courses for the patent exam prerequisites).</p>
<p>Any particular foreign languages you are interested in?</p>
<p>I am interested in pursuing Korean from the elementary level and advancing my Chinese and Japanese beyond what was offered in HS. It sounds like the L&S CS major would make more sense in my situation. I had never heard of the ABET accreditation. But I will check that out. Thank you. </p>
<p>Berkeley has good offerings in all three of the languages (the department uses its own placement testing to determine the appropriate entry level for you). However, note that it takes more semesters of instruction for an English speaker to become proficient in those languages compared to languages like Spanish and French (check the course catalogs for the language instruction offerings – 7-9 semesters for K/J/C versus 4 semesters for S/F when starting at the raw beginner level).</p>
<p>I know you want private, but like the previous poster I would suggest you not overlook state flagships, which can be less expensive than privates. My reasoning is that, after the ivies, they are most likely to have the languages you say you want and have really good compsci. The intersection of these two fields, as you probably know, is rich with possibilities and also abetted by neighboring fields such as linguistics and neuroscience. Many branches of the federal government are very interested in the intersection of these fields, of course, and the University of Maryland College Park is one place I know where millions are going into research on this intersection. I think they have something called the Maryland Language Center to direct these funds into research. No, it’s the Maryland Language Science Center.</p>
<p>It is common on CC for posters to warn compsci aspirants to avoid LACs because the departments often lack the depth of upper-level courses, or even many faculty members, in compsci that larger schools can provide. </p>
<p>There are many many good compsci and language departments in privates that are a larger than LACs, and having some idea of where you’d like to live or work might help narrow the choices.</p>
<p>Korean may be the least common of your languages of interest, so it may be the limiting factor in your college search. Look for schools which offer fourth year Korean language courses if you want depth in that subject. Of course, they also need to have a reasonable offering of CS courses for your CS interest. Of the other UCs, UCLA and UCI have fourth year Korean language courses. However, UCLA CS is only offered in the engineering division, with the usual engineering-type requirements (i.e. more physics, math, and engineering courses).</p>
<p>Brown is one obvious choice it is strong in CS and in languages My daughter studied CS at Brown, and also took Mandarin and Russian. Major focus is undergraduates, faculty is world class. Try the Net Price Calculator to see what your cost would be–for some it can be the same or less than UC. I don’t think it is a good idea to pay much more than your UC cost if you have to go into debt also, and get into some UCs. Plus you can only take on your Student Direct Loan, the rest is your parents responsibility to sign for. </p>
<p>Brown offers the following languages: Akkadian (Egyptology), American Sign Language, Arabic, Catalan, Chinese, Czech, Egyptian (Middle), French, German, Greek (Ancient), Greek (Modern), Haitian Creole, Hebrew (Modern), Hebrew (Biblical), Hindi / Urdu, Italian, Japanese, Korean, Latin, Persian (Modern), Polish, Portuguese, Russian, Sanskrit, Spanish.</p>
<p>They also have the Center for Language Studies. CLS is the academic home for American Sign Language, Arabic, Catalan, English for International Teaching Assistants, Hindi/Urdu, and Modern Persian. In addition, the Center may sometimes offer non-credit language courses.</p>
<p>@BrownParent - did your daughter go into the computer field on graduation? Or other? NPC came out at 64k. Ow. 
I have two brothers too. That is great she could do the comp sci plus Mandarin and Russian. I definitely want something like that.</p>
<p>So you are pretty much going to be full pay anywhere with possible exception of HYPS. Too bad. She went directly into a CS PhD program with funding. She actually did a math/cs major. The languages were just classes, not majors or minors.</p>
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<p>Not necessarily. The OP would qualify for merit aid at many colleges, ranging from full-ride or tuition-free scholarships to merit discounts (~$5K-$20K or more) at some rather selective LACs.</p>
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<p>I agree that, of all the OP’s expressed interests, Korean may be the limiting factor.<br>
That would rule out most LACs. The exceptions include Claremont McKenna, Wesleyan, and Williams. Of these, only Claremont McKenna offers significant amounts of merit aid, but it doesn’t seem to offer a CS major.
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The University of Alabama offers Korean. It also offers full tuition merit scholarships for OOS students with stats as high as yours. </p>
<p>However, unless you only want to dabble in these languages, it is probably unrealistic to think you can pursue Korean from the elementary level … AND advance your Chinese and Japanese … AND successfully complete a CS major program … AND complete all general education requirements … AND graduate on time. If you drop Korean (and maybe Japanese) from your wish list, many more college possibilities open up. </p>
<p>The best options for all the subjects you say you want, at relatively affordable costs, probably are the UCs. Some of the Ivies would offer nearly the same range of courses, with stronger undergraduate focus … but not for $50K if you don’t qualify for need-based aid. If you drop Korean, Oberlin might be a good option (for fairly good merit aid and strong Asian studies, with much better undergraduate focus than the UCs but more limited course offerings). Would it be worth a big price premium over the UCs for what you want? Maybe not.</p>
<p>In the end if i have to take another language besides Korean that could be ok. I just had a goal of being able to speak the major languages of the Pacific rim. Can’t always have everything. Berkeley would certainly fit the bill and at the right price. But I’ve seen many solid candidates get nixed there. Time to hone the essay writing!</p>
<p>Possibly Ohio State. <a href=“https://cllc.osu.edu/undergraduate/languages”>https://cllc.osu.edu/undergraduate/languages</a></p>
<p>My daughter is interested in foreign language and CS. She tested in a really high language class in college. Her interest is to be somewhat fluent in one language. However with the engineering CS major it’s hard to achieve that so study abroad program learning language is another option. If you don’t care about minor then use every opportunity you can to practice. I’ll bet you spending the whole summer in one of those Asian countries will improve your language skill tremendously. UCs tuition are a bargain and use the money to study abroad.
Another thing I like to add is that all these UCs have large percentage of Asian, both native English speakers and non-native English speakers, you have a much better chance to meet people through clubs and such and start practicing a language.</p>