<p>What is it like in your school?</p>
<p>In my school, in the Bay Area, anything Christian is looked down on. I'm not a christian or anything, but it seems every "secular liberal" is out to get rid of anything religious. For example, my Mormon teacher was forced to remove a Cross hanging over his door because a parent complained after seeing it during Parent-teacher night.</p>
<p>Yet, Muslims are accepted and idolized. Most Muslims I have talked to are regressive, conservative, and while not advocating terrorism, seem to think America deserves all the soldiers dying in Iraq. Now, I don't support the Iraq war at all but that's just sick. However, instead of being looked down upon like a second class citizen like Christians are, many of them are embraced. Most teachers encourage Muslims to speak about their religion and whatnot.</p>
<p>Doesn't anyone find this kind of strange and ironic? It seems that society seems to hate Christians, yet Muslims who are much more conservative are actually respected and idolized?</p>
<p>I think that an analogy to this discussion might be a discussion about affirmative action or gender preference.</p>
<p>In your experience (btw, it definitely isn't like that where I am) Muslims are encouraged more to speak about their religion and that is probably because American society in general looks down on the Islamic religion. In a way it is trying to undo the past wrongs and pays more attention to one group because the other group generally gets the most favor and support.
But most Muslims are moderate and don't think that American soldiers deserve to die. They don't support the war but they don't wish for the death of the soldiers either. </p>
<p>And saying that Muslims are more conservative is a generalization. There are radicals and moderates in every religion and if you took a cross-section of the most radical group in each, you would probably come up even. </p>
<p>Specifically in my experience, Christianity is more favored with Judaism right up behind. Our school holds meetings for Christmas and Chanukah but do not acknowledge any Islamic holidays. Our history classes are more focused on Western, Christian viewpoints with almost no discussion of Eastern, Muslim ones. </p>
<p>All in all, I respectfully disagree and find fault with your argument. </p>
<p>P.S. Just for context, what did you mean by regressive?</p>
<p>how STUPID this is. They're just trying to be socially accepting while throwing aside what was usual, and what this country was based on (although many will argue with that)</p>
<p>^^ Yeah, I'll argue w/ that.
I'm assuming you mean the Muslims by "they" or else I'm assuming you mean the teachers favoring the Muslims. </p>
<p>The country was founded on freedom and the pursuit of happiness, and that's including religious freedom. "What was usual" does not equal what was right. What this country was based on also does not equal what was right. This country was based on slavery and racism. Neither of those are right. Things evolve and the country should be evolving to become more accepting as the diversity increases.</p>
<p>My school is completely secular. There's probably just as many muslims, as there are jews, as there are christians (actually, there'are probably more christians..), as there are atheists/agnostics/I-can-really-care-less.</p>
<p>at my school, the most common religion is Judaism, followed by Christianity. It's quite well known that my town is the "land of the JAPS." Out of 10 of my friends, 5 are Jewish, 2 are Christian, 1 is Hindu, 1 is Muslim, 1 is an Athiest. I think our school is, overall, very liberal, and the education is secular. Most of my friends are not very religious.</p>
<p>Nearly all the people at school are Christian. While we might be racially diverse-ish, we have no Jews or Muslims or Hindus or anything else.</p>
<p>I live right next to a military base. Guess which side of the war we're on! It's not that anyone is against all Muslims, but they aren't exactly...... informed on all sides of the issue.</p>
<p>Oh my God. Yes. My school is an all-girl's prep school, but they LOVE LOVE LOVE all the muslims who come to our school. We have mass 5 x a year (start of year, thanksgiving, christmas, easter, end of year) but the few Muslims in school are daily encouraged to "talk about their faith" and allowed to wear headscarves.</p>
<p>I live very close to the largest population of Muslims outside of the Middle East, Dearborn, MI. There was a LOT of hate violence right after 9-11 but things have calmed down drastically since then. However, my school is about 50-50 Muslims and Christians between religious people and about 50% of us don't follow any religion really. I have a few very good Muslim friends, girls and guys, and none of them support our troops being killed. Nobody is really discouraged or encouraged to talk about their faith. I, being neither, personally do hate it when they are forced to bring down Christian symbols yet greatly encourage symbols of other faiths. I believe that if one is allowed to display a Christian symbol then I have my own right to display and pentacle and a Muslim person is allowed to display their holy relics. It bothers me when we aren't allowed to have Christmas pageants but are greatly in favor of supporting the holy days of Islam. I have also been on the discrimination side of religion, being a generally obscure and misunderstood religion that I follow, so I know first hand that Christians and Islamic people alike can be cruel, but we are all free to express our beliefs. I believe we either support all religions or we support none.</p>
<p>what i mean sunshineyday, is that the founding fathers were pretty much all Christian...although it is by far not a Chrisitian nation, as it wasn't meant to be. My point lies in the fact that...they were not muslim, they were Christian! In context to the topic it seems they're forgetting about that.</p>
<p>"There is only one god, the christian god, and in the divine “War on Terror” he is on the side of the United States of America aiding in the fulfillment of their manifest destiny - anyone who thinks differently is a terrorist loving, despot supporting, anti-American, communist, hoping for the down-fall of the greatest nation to ever grace the face of the planet."</p>
<p>-- alieada.blogspot.com</p>
<p>My school is pretty equally divided. It's a secular school filled with probably a tie with Christians, Hindus, and Non-religious(Atheists/Agnostics), with quite a few Jews,Muslims, and other religions. But none of my friends are all that religious and not many people in my school are either.</p>
<p>Darkace88 - "is that the founding fathers were pretty much all Christian"</p>
<p>Correction...most of the founding fathers were deists. There's a world of difference between a christian and a deist, more so than a christian and a muslim.</p>
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<p>You're both wrong, you're both right. We will truly never know. Take for example George Washington. Some will argue adamantly that he attended church every Sunday and even bought several pews at the church for his family. Others will say that only his wife attended. Although, I don't think it's at all possible to deny at least some Christian influence on our founding fathers.</p>
<p>There are many quotes regarding Jefferson and Franklin's dislike for religion. There were many others as well. The USA's founding fathers were not at all devout Christians(as been said, most were Deists).</p>
<p>It is not known whether the founding fathers were all either atheists, diests, freemasons, or Christians. People just believe what they want to believe based on their politics (liberals say they were either diests or atheists, and conservatives say they were Christians), when the truth is probably somewhere in between.</p>
<p>they wrote freedom of religion, if they wanted america to be a christian nation they wouldve writtten "Official religion: Christianity including all denominations"</p>
<p>^ They wanted freedom of religion yes, but that doesn't mean that they weren't Christian or influenced by Christian doctrine.</p>
<p>When the founding fathers wrote that, all they really meant was they allowed all types of Christian sects, and Catholicism to live together and not be persecuted like they were in Europe. Not in their wildest dreams did they ever consider Islam at all.</p>
<p>^ I'm not too good with colonial times but from what I remember virtually no Eastern religions had hit western Europe by that time, correct?</p>