<p>Harvard is taking more than 200 off the waitlist. </p>
<p>Their yield was lower than expected (and lower than initially reported), indicating that they lost a lot more cross admits to Yale than they expected.</p>
<p>"Frankly, I am insulted by H&P's reasons for dropping EA. They imply that URMs are not smart or savvy enough to apply EA."</p>
<p>Posted by Ephemeral2 -
Wow. Are you kidding? I hope so. That is NOT the reason Harvard and Princeton dropped early admissions.</p>
<p>Please see link below to Harvard Gazette with quote from interim president Bok - </p>
<p>"Early admission programs tend to advantage the advantaged," Bok continued. "Students from more sophisticated backgrounds and affluent high schools often apply early to increase their chances of admission, while minority students and students from rural areas, other countries, and high schools with fewer resources miss out."</p>
<p>Yale's yield may go down a bit because Harvard is accepting so many from the waitlist. They may steal a lot of new Yalies on their waitlist.</p>
<p>^^^^^Oh please. I am genuinely very glad that Yale had EA when I applied, and it would have made the application process much more stressful if they hadn't offered the option of applying early. Anyone with access to a computer can take advantage of EA, and if they're Yale-quality applicants, they will figure it out. It's illogical to think that someone "without advantage" will not know about EA, and then that the admissions office will be more likely to turn them away if they don't apply EA. Also, I have not personally seen anything but theoretical evidence that EA admits are "less diverse"- whatever that really means.</p>
<p>rd31, I had not thought of this. It is possible, but probably will have a small effect... maybe a percentage, tops?</p>
<p>Helping the disadvantaged gain equal footing is very different from "saying that URMs are not smart or savvy enough to apply EA." It has nothing to do with not being smart or savvy enough to apply EA. It has to do with financial situations.</p>
<p>I agree that any student who is "sophisticated" enough to apply to HYP should also be "sophisticated" enough to understand his or her early acceptance options. In addition, IMO it takes the same level of sophistication to increase one's chances of moving from a waitlist as it does to understand early options. And in most situations, moving off the wait list carries the economic burden of forfeiting the initial deposit (required at all but a handful of colleges -- not Yale and several others, I believe). No benefit to lower income students there. </p>
<p>And talk about stress! At least with SCEA/ED, many students are done with the stress factor by December. This year, with the trickle-down effect, large numbers of students may feel uncertainty about their college destinations well into the summer.</p>