<p>i could not meet the deadlines last year...........i am applying now to the class of 2013..........will it affect my application??????????</p>
<p>thinking of giving SAT again, its my third time...........what say</p>
<p>guys which month is appropriate for taking TOFEL?....Should we take it before november for ED??....how much preperation does it require compared to SAT???..heard its way easy compared to SAT.??</p>
<p>Give the Toefl as soon as you can..if you can't don't bother about it...it's a must that you prepare for SAT and everything else comes after..the SATs are the MOST CRUCIAL part of your application. regardless of what people say....and take your time and give your SAT properly. even if its december. but no later than that...i knew a friend who got accepted as a full ride for W&L, and he took the Toefl after that.just shedding some light onto how toefl is totally worthless...worthless but required anyways so do give it....</p>
<p>And a word of advice. apply to some college right away. safety ones i mean. the sooner you apply the more aid you will get. and you will not have the burden of getting into a college desperately. Here's a list of suggestive schools:
Luther College
St. Peter's College
Caldwell (yes that's right. though people blow it off, everyone eventually will end up here-sadly with little scholarship than they expected. so apply sooner)
St. John's (NY)
Westminster (MO)
University of New Orleans....</p>
<p>this application process is not as hard as you think. if you have any difficulties just post on the thread. if i don't reply soon, pm me....im just working for the summer, trying to save up to and transfer to a school...</p>
<p>@titanium909..thnkx........yea I have started preparing for SAT and hope in oct test I'll more or less get the required score (al least 2100+ in my case.)...I m considering to apply to F&M for ED.....everything else is fine with it but the only problem is that I have heard that though it might accept a student, it might not give him proper aid he requires...also its financial aid policy is not very clear..I m still wondering whether this wud trouble me since I wud b wholly depending upon financial aid????</p>
<p>Not Luther guys!!! 14K is a must pay to attend Luther!! I had applied there and they said that every international student are required to pay 14K!! I think they wont let your cost down to 7K - 8k!! they would give a reason like-US economy is decreasing and the colleges prices are increasing anually and luther cant afford to give such hefty amount of financial aid to international aid!!! UNO, westminster (mo), caldwell are are worth safeties if you have good sat scores!!!</p>
<p>St. Peters too. A great safety if you have great SAT scores. A friend of mine was asked to pay only for his board. That, for a safety school, is really good.</p>
<p>.... Well guys, I just wanted to share with you all the best advice I ever received regarding College Admissions... this advice comes from a guy who is a current student at Stanford ... he begins by saying ----</p>
<p>"""" I'm going to tackle this a little bit differently from what I see
elsewhere. The admissions process seems so robotic most of the time,
and as I filled out applications, none of that ubiquitous information
seemed to tell me what I really needed to hear. So, after being
admitted to Stanford, here's what I wish I had had the opportunity to
read beforehand...</p>
<p>I didn't really involve myself in the admissions process until late in
my Junior year of high school. By about September of my Senior year, I
knew for sure that Stanford was my top choice, not because I wanted to
attend the "best" school but because it had to offer more than anywhere
else exactly what I wanted. And I think that was an important step in
terms of getting in. I never made it my life's goal to attend a highly
competitive college, but rather, throughout high school, I was who I
wanted to be and was interested in what I uniquely wanted to be
interested. When college time rolled around, I searched for the school
that best fit my own persona. I did NOT spend 4 years creating a
persona that fit the school of my choice.</p>
<p>A friend emailed me a link the other day. On the page, a prospective
Stanford student applying in my year had posted his stats, asking "What
are my chances?" Almost all of the replies were "You are probably
getting in!"
Let me give you a taste of his stats, altered slightly (but not with
any noticable effect upon quality), done as to preserve his privacy: </p>
<p>GPA: 4.0 unweighted.
SAT I - 2360.
SAT IIs: 800, 740, 790, 710.
All honors courses, including seven, count 'em, 7, AP courses taken
BEFORE Senior year: 5, 5, 5, 5, 5, 5, 5. Taking a lot of APs senior
year.
Class rank: 1 out of 300-something.
Activities: involved himself in a number of clubs and non-school
activities, did community service hours, etc.</p>
<p>Impressive? Yeah, he is definitely one smart, hard-working guy.</p>
<p>Two months later... Status: REJECTED.</p>
<p>Is this surprising? Most people think so. The common reaction
is "getting into Stanford is just ridiculous." To be honest, had this
kid applied to some of the nation's equally competitive colleges, I
sincerely think he would have stood a much better chance. And that's
where Stanford is different. If you just dropped your jaw and you feel
as though you have no chance of admission to Stanford, close your mouth
and keep reading. In fact, wrap your lips around some more stats, which
seem like crap when compared to those listed above (as with the above
applicant, also altered slightly for privacy):</p>
<p>GPA: 4.0 (unweighted)
SAT I - 2160
SAT IIs - 800, 620, 640
APs - took honors courses throughout, 2 APs Junior year: 4, 3. And a
lot during Senior year.
Rank: School does not rank.
Activities: computer music, DJ, drummer, founder of some clubs in those
areas...</p>
<p>Status: ACCEPTED.</p>
<p>Neither of the two applicants have any connections nor are they
atheletes or legacies, and they are the same race, if you think any of
that would have made a difference. They both excel in all classes
rather than being "lopsided," towards math or language, for example. In
short, I assure you that they're playing the same game. So what's the
deal? Is the decision that random?</p>
<p>Think about this: both applicants can doubtlessly do the work at
Stanford. Yes, they're both have the IQs. Academic success is criteria
number one, but that doesn't mean it's "weighted" more than anything
else as they make final decisions. They want to know that you are
intelligent enough to succeed academically once on campus. And, like
one other survey giver said, the dean of admissions remarked at
orienatation that 10,000 of the over 20,000 applicants could do the
work at Stanford. </p>
<p>So the only logical conclusion? Once academic success by numbers has
become clear through the application, as it is in both of the above
cases, admissions officers have to ask "So what?" Through the
application of kid #1, the rejection decision makes it obvious that
Stanford (wisely) cares not for superficial success. Playing merely to
win results in losing. And from application #2? Playing to play results
in success. </p>
<p>"Passion for ideas, imagination, intellectual vitality, creativity,
uniqueness, ability to understand ambiguity and complexity" - these
phrases and more can be found on Stanford's own undergraduate
admissions website. Why some choose to ignore Stanford's own words is
beyond me. Rutherford Hayes once said insightfully, "We're drowning in
information and starving for knowledge." Likewise, a good life is not
about acquiring information. It's about the desire for knowledge. I
wish more applicants would understand just how important that is. Don't
base your high school education around "building a resume," as one
other survey contributor so aptly said. It's four years of your life,
for crying out loud! Base them around yourself, who you truly are, and
by the time the "dreaded admissions process" rolls around, you'll be
halfway there already. All aspects of the application WILL fall into
place nicely and will form a complete "you" so long as you are honest
with yourself. I promise. Of all the current Stanford students I know,
these traits in them stand out. I'll put it bluntly just as Stanford
itself implies on its own website: Lots of kids are smart, but only
some of them really, really, want to learn for learning's sake. Make
sure you're one of the latter!</p>
<p>I don't know what the essays of Applicant #1 contained, but I'd be
willing to bet that while the quality of writing was indeed high, the
content was either vague, impersonal, or at worst, arrogant or
fallacious. He probably tried to explain his life to the admissions
staff as he thought they would like to hear it. His teacher
recommendations doubtlessly attest to his being one of the most
intelligent guys on the earth, but they may not offer insight into why
that may be. He is his class's valedictorian. Does he like that title?
If so, what does that say about him as a thinking person? Thinking
about this kind of stuff. These questions are important!</p>
<p>I have read applicant #2's essays, and it's obvious he tried hard to
make them personal - to show who he really was and what really made his
clockwork turn. One of his recommendation writers sent him a completed
letter of recommendation after his admission, and he posted it, so I
have also read it. It displays his true love of knowledge from the
teacher's point of view as well as his ability to draw from reality to
create the fantasy he loves. The recommendation is actually as personal
as are his own essays. </p>
<p>If it hasn't clicked by now, then I don't know what else to say. It's
as simple as realizing that colleges admit real people, therefore the
admissions process must also be personal! </p>
<p>Specifically, I strongly believe that Stanford wants kids who are (as
they say) CREATIVE, IMAGINIATIVE, and who are ceaseless EXPLORERS,
bound by nothing - all of which, as I have hinted, shine through those
who live life for living's sake, not as they think the admissions staff
would like them to. As I filled out my application for early admission,
I felt like my chances were, as is so often said (by my own college
counselor, too), "a crapshoot." All those "applicant #1s" out there made
me shrivel up in comparison. I wish now that before I applied I had had
the opportunity to read what I have just written so I could have had
some assurance that this process rewards those who live creatively, for
their own true goals and interests. </p>
<p>If you've read this far and you're thinking about Stanford, then please
don't take lightly what I have said. I'm not an admissions expert; I'm
just another applicant like you, but I assure you that from the moment
you submit your application, Stanford (again, as they say on their
website) has the utmost respect for you as a person - who you are, your
aspirations, your talents, and your worldview. That's a very refreshing
offer straight from them to you, and it beats the heck out of any
school's more stat-driven admissions process. Respect their offer and
return it by showing them exactly what makes your soul yours. If they
weren't so generous with their time and respect, I KNOW FOR SURE that I
would have stood NO CHANCE against those in the applicant pool like
applicant #1. Reflecting on my application, I know that my fortunate
admission means that they truly cared about me as a person. It's so
refreshing to think that Stanford cares about something more than
numbers.</p>
<p>I hope this information helps you in the process, and I wish you the
best of luck with your application! """"</p>
<p>Well, this advice definitely helped me ... though I'm not going to Stanford... I got a full scholarship to study at W&L... so guys and gals think about it ...seriously...</p>
<p>This advice is indeed very good.. class of 2013, pay heed to this one.</p>
<p>This will be of TRUE HELP guys ! read this more than once !!</p>
<p>well it depends on whether or not you have learnt from your past mistakes ...</p>
<p>written really well...........must read it</p>
<p>hey....does making more than one common application accounts affect our application...help</p>
<p>yo! i'm not actually from nepal (but a neighbor nonetheless! (INDIA)). juz borrowing your thread for a li'l question which is making me uber-worked-up! (that's cuz you're all a realllly active thread; so random cheers for ya'll nepal friends! :)) yup, just wanted to know that if i'm applying for the next session i.e. for 2009, when's the last time i can sit for the SAT I. Is it the December one or January one? Looking forward to a prompt reply and thanks in advance everyone! :)</p>
<p>yours worriedly! :P
100%Tuna</p>
<p>Hey tuna, it largely depends on the deadline of the college u are applying to. If the deadline is in Jan - Feb, the Jan SAT would not be a problem for u. But, do email the adcoms of the colleges u are applying to. They are the best source of information. Some colleges do not accept jan SAT scores. Other than that, if the deadline is on June-July, u can still take the SAT in June.</p>
<p>guys, prepare early and that will be the key difference in the end. Apply to safeties as soon as you can.</p>
<p>Most places will accept a Jan score</p>
<p>You are fine with Jan scores</p>
<p>hey ppl...time for applying to ED is coming near (2 months left)...I have been thinking of ideas based upon which I might bulid a personal essay...but none of them seems to be good enough!!!</p>
<p>^Yeah I'm having the same trouble with my essay.I've thought of plenty of ideas but non of them seem to be good enough.Any advice on writing the personal essay will be much appreciated.
Thanks in advance.</p>
<p>"Don't write on a cliched topic unless you are a terrific writer who can even make cinderella sound novel.. a big NO for things like "I volunteered at the nearby hospital and this event completely changed me as a person"...adcom have had those things from the begining itself...
think of an incidence that is stuck in your head for a long time and try to work on it..you might add a bit (for me, a lot) of imagination to make it more impactful..finally after you write one, pick the phrases/lines/paragraphs that would let them know about you as a person and consider whether those things would be sufficient to impress them..your essay should reflect your attitude towards things..".....((It might or might not be helpful...I only summarised what my counsellor told me regarding coll essays))</p>