Mom of 2018er here. I’m rooting for all of you!
Also, dang! CA went up a point? Nosebleed territory for sure. My S still would have made it, but ouch,
Mom of 2018er here. I’m rooting for all of you!
Also, dang! CA went up a point? Nosebleed territory for sure. My S still would have made it, but ouch,
@JaneyM the highest possible score is 228 (76x3). I was doing a little math this morning now that CA is known to be 223 and it seems like a kid would have to have at least 740 on verbal to get that (73x2 + math score of 75 or 76). Or on the flip side if you have a more verbal kid, minimum math score is 710 with a perfect verbal score of 760.
@JaneyM - @washugrad is correct that the highest possible is 228. NJ has historically been the “max” with the old test and was retaining that title with the new. It’s possible that a state might reach 224 this year - we don’t yet know what’s happening with MA or MD, for instance - and we’ve already seen CA at least catch up. The test seems to be designed so that a lot of high cut-off states start to converge on some “max” number. Whether that max number itself continues to go up a point every year - let’s hope not! As Wash is pointing out, maxing out at a 228 is going to be super hard for any state, even the top.
DC matches the highest cut-off, whether that be NJ or another state.
Hope that answers your questions!
According to Art’s blog, NJ = 223, no change from last year. I hope the same thing happens in NY.
Curious where International Students’ stats end up vis a vis a PSAT (for students with temp residency) or SAT taken in, say, CA, for Alternate Entry acceptance. And, if Alr Entry stats affect the cutoff curve?
Art’s Blog now has all the cutoffs. Wasn’t expecting it so soon.
@TheBigChef looks like our NY 221 should qualify. Art must’ve gotten a copy of “The Book”
Yeah, I know we were in the same boat kimclan1. Congrats to you and your family!
Good grief - 4 states at 223! CA, NJ we knew about but now MA and MD reported in at 223 as well, per Art. There might be more that I missed just quickly perusing the list.
Well at least we know MN. S19 was at a 218 so wasn’t seriously expecting anything more than a high commended. Congrats to all who made it. Those who didn’t and still reported in their scores to help others should be given a special Thank You.
info from Compass site:
AL = 216 (unchanged)
AK = 215 (-1 from last year)
AZ = 220 (unchanged)
AR = 214 (unchanged)
CA = 223 (+1 from last year)
CO = 221 (+1 from last year)
CT = 222 (+1 from last year)
DE = 222 (+1 from last year)
DC = 223 (unchanged)
FL = 219 (unchanged)
GA = 220 (unchanged)
HI = 220 (+1 from last year)
ID = 214 (-2 from last year)
IL = 221 (unchanged)
IN = 219 (unchanged)
IA = 216 (unchanged)
KS = 218 (-1 from last year)
KY = 218 (+1 from last year)
LA = 217 (+1 from last year)
ME = 217 (+2 from last year)
MD = 223 (+1 from last year)
MA = 223 (+1 from last year)
MI = 219 (unchanged)
MN = 220 (unchanged)
MS = 215 (+2 from last year)
MO = 217 (unchanged)
MT = 214 (unchanged)
NE = 216 (+1 from last year)
NV = 218 (+1 from last year)
NH = 219 (+2 from last year)
NJ = 223 (unchanged)
NM = 215 (unchanged)
NY = 221 (unchanged)
NC = 220 (+1 from last year)
ND = 212 (unchanged)
OH = 219 (unchanged)
OK = 215 (-1 from last year)
OR = 221 (+1 from last year)
PA = 220 (+1 from last year)
RI = 220 (+3 from last year)
SC = 216 (-1 from last year)
SD = 215 (+2 from last year)
TN = 219 (+1 from last year)
TX = 221 (unchanged)
UT= 215 (-1 from last year)
VT= 216 (-1 from last year)
VA = 222 (unchanged)
WA = 222 (unchanged)
WV = 212 (unchanged)
WI = 216 (-1 from last year)
WY = 212 (unchanged)
Art in a comment on his blog in May: “I expect that we will see a more typical batch of declining cutoffs this year — I estimate 10-12.”
My counts may be off, but this is what I got from @gigem87’s post:
-2 : 1
-1 : 7
0 : 22
+1: 15
+2: 4
+3: 1
A lot more clustered +1/0/-1 this year and quite a few more adding than subtracting - which matches the other info on Art’s page about more (percentage-wise) students scoring higher than 1400 than in previous years. It looks like it is getting more and more difficult to get NMSF in a handful of states.
Opps I used the wrong column … will adjust
Used the wrong column to compare this year with last year.
AL = 216 (unchanged)
AK = 215 (-2 from last year)
AZ = 220 (unchanged)
AR = 214 (-1 from last year)
CA = 223 (+1 from last year)
CO = 221 (-1 from last year)
CT = 222 (+1 from last year)
DE = 222 (+1 from last year)
DC = 223 (unchanged)
FL = 219 (unchanged)
GA = 220 (unchanged)
HI = 220 (unchanged)
ID = 214 (-2 from last year)
IL = 221 (unchanged)
IN = 219 (unchanged)
IA = 216 (unchanged)
KS = 218 (-1 from last year)
KY = 218 (+1 from last year)
LA = 217 (+1 from last year)
ME = 217 (+2 from last year)
MD = 223 (+1 from last year)
MA = 223 (+1 from last year)
MI = 219 (unchanged)
MN = 220 (unchanged)
MS = 215 (+2 from last year)
MO = 217 (unchanged)
MT = 214 (unchanged)
NE = 216 (+1 from last year)
NV = 218 (+1 from last year)
NH = 219 (+2 from last year)
NJ = 223 (unchanged)
NM = 215 (unchanged)
NY = 221 (unchanged)
NC = 220 (+1 from last year)
ND = 212 (+1 from last year)
OH = 219 (unchanged)
OK = 215 (-1 from last year)
OR = 221 (+1 from last year)
PA = 220 (+1 from last year)
RI = 220 (+4 from last year)
SC = 216 (-1 from last year)
SD = 215 (unchanged)
TN = 219 (+1 from last year)
TX = 221 (unchanged)
UT= 215 (-1 from last year)
VT= 216 (-1 from last year)
VA = 222 (unchanged)
WA = 222 (unchanged)
WV = 212 (+1 from last year)
WI = 216 (-1 from last year)
WY = 212 (-1 from last year)
Bummer, my son missed in NJ by 1. Was really hoping it would go down to 222, but knew it wouldn’t actually happen. Congrats to all who made it!
Revising from @gigem87’s new post.
I guess Art was spot on in his estimate in a comment on his blog in May: “I expect that we will see a more typical batch of declining cutoffs this year — I estimate 10-12.” Because now there are around 11 declining states, but still more increasing than decreasing. (I didn’t redo my chart because my numbers aren’t adding up correctly & I’ve recounted three times. Grr.)
Poor Rhode Island!
I guess Rhode Island is such a small state, it’s subject to wide variations in any given year. Still, can you imagine if you were sitting on a 219 (plus 3 from last year’s cutoff) and saw that 220 number pop up on the list. Yikes!
@Reebtoor thank you for getting us organized with this thread and keeping up with all of the changes as they came in! Also, @JBStillFlying, I really appreciate the wealth of information you provided to all of us! All of these students, whether they made NMSF or not, are amazing kids!
Happy DD in Iowa! 224 would have gotten her on the list in all 50 states, DC and Overseas!
Here is the Summary of movement from last year:
-2 : 1
-1 : 7
0 : 23
+1: 15
+2: 4
+3: 1
@seemasp it’s actually:
-2 : 2
-1 : 8
0: 20
1 : 16
2 : 3
3 : 0
4 : 1