<p>Ok I usually try to refrain from getting involved in these type of debates (so maybe I'll regret this later haha)</p>
<p>I honestly think we are making a big deal of nothing. I have noticed that the girl ratings (and the guy ratings for that matter) on ************** are direct correlations to the school's size (more selection) and how far south the school is (the warmer weather, the less clothes people wear). So if you are looking at a small school in the North, know that it will always get a bad rating on that site. </p>
<p>The only legit thing the rating is based on is male-female ratio. However realize that at any tech school, the ratio is going to be heavily lopsided. Carnegie Mellon which is 60/40 is actually BETTER than most (Caltech for instance is 70/30). If the male-female ratio is more important to you than pursuing your career in the best way, then go somewhere else. However I personally feel that one should go to the best school he or she can. </p>
<p>And by the way, KrazyKow, I agree with what you said and I don't blame you for being disgusted by these posts.</p>
<p>Wow can't believe these threads are still going on...</p>
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<li><p>Since you trust the D+ so much, do you also trust the avg 120,000+ or whatever it is at now salary on that site too? Sure CMU is known for job networking but come on....</p></li>
<li><p>Any top school will not have a majority of "GirlsGoneWild" types. Go browse the other top school forums and you'll find a lot of the same issues with social life + relationships. Carnegie seems to be unable to shake off the male/female and past reputation. Do you think UChicago, Emory, Cornell, MIT, etc are hosting all these playboy mansion parties that you'll be missing out on? 60/40 is quite good considering most of SCS are guys and a lot of other kids will not even be contenders. </p></li>
<li><p>There's Upitt, Duquesne, and other colleges within the area. </p></li>
<li><p>Pittsburgh is a city with many suburbs. If you can't get laid in such an environment then you really wouldn't have much of a chance anywhere. Here's a tip: go club hopping with some friends or start online dating. It's not like you're stuck in Farmville, Oklahoma.</p></li>
<li><p>Use orientation for your own benefit. I love orientation as it weeds out the outgoing and social from the rest. Example: Outgoing people will have fun at the games and meet people during the day while antisocials will spend the day checking out buildings and classrooms. 2nd Example: Outgoing people will actually go to Clippership and dance the night away instead of that casinothingy they do for the people that don't go. </p></li>
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<p>I realize I'm not so eloquent w/ a keyboard in my current state but I think any readers will get the point. If not feel free to ask or pull up that "social life sucks?" thread if it is still available.</p>
<p>From what I remember it is a huge boat that goes up and down the Pittsburgh river where all the bridges are. They sell tickets during orientation and there are limited seats. My friends and I got 'em early and if you don't go you stay at campus and do some casino thingy. Lo and behold the people that went were all cool, mostly attractive, and the ratio was pretty much 1:1. I believe such events weed out some of the more "undesirable" people of the student body.</p>
<p>As for the event itself, Clippership is like a couple hours of the night on a boat which has several levels. The top level is scenic and refreshing and basically people talk/chat. That's kinda boring though so you wanna get down to the inside of the ship on the bottom levels where people dance and it gets really hot/humid. Just go with some friends, hopefully have some attractive females in your group you'd like to get to know better, and be outgoing. There'll be lots of friendly O.C's there too but I hear you're not really allowed to hook up with them. </p>
<p>Before the ship starts moving make sure you get to know as many people on the ship as possible. This is done either earlier in the day or just walking around with some buddies and introducing yourselves.</p>
<p>The Clippership is what you make of it - most people enjoy it. Some people spend the entire time sitting around on the top deck talking, others dance the whole time (on a crowded hot dance floor... which happens to be really fun), others split their time between the two, and there are always a few people who sit by themselves doing nothing. Overall though, it's fun if you're outgoing. If you're not outgoing, go on the dance floor & you'll watch yourself become outgoing. Easy enough.</p>
<p>I went to CMU as an undergrad and am now back as a grad student.</p>
<p>There are plenty of attractive girls here (some are VERY attractive)! All the standard caveats apply though. You will be studying ALOT here--especially as an undergrad.</p>
<p>There are still more guys than girls (as has been the case for many years), but many guys know their place in the attractive scale, and the same for the girls. Thus, similarly attractive people tend to find eachother (although there are exceptions).</p>
<p>As a guy you can always register for a course at Pitt. Make room in your schedule at some point for a freshman math, physics, or chemistry class that you will count as an elective of some kind. Use class time to find what you are looking for (if you want a loose girl, which I think these online grades really are about, this strategy isn't the best). Try to get yourself in close proximity. Open your laptop and share cool stuff with those around you during class. On the day of the first exam, walk in late, take the exam, and walk out early (you WILL be noticed). When the exam scores come back, make sure your 'A' is available for all to see (without holding it up over your head and yelling "hey look at my score"). Start conversing with the people around you (especially the girl you are interested in) and offer to help them study etc.</p>
<p>The girls WILL be impressed.</p>
<p>In my experience here, many (not all or even most) attractive girls find their way to graduate students. </p>
<p>So both sexes have found ways to improve their guy/girl situation. </p>
<p>A note concerning the grading of girls. Ranking the schools buy girl grade order shows top schools typically being party type schools. There may be attractive girls at these schools, but my suspicion is that what makes them most attractive is the high rate of "casual" hook-ups. In other words, the girls their are so dumb they give it up easily and often. To my hormones this is HOT, but a momentary reflection makes me glad I'm in the situation I am in. Do you really want to be with a girl who gives it up easily and often?</p>
<p>I was and am happy with the girl situation here (of course I have a beautiful junior as a girl friend right now).</p>
<p>"Open your laptop and share cool stuff with those around you during class. On the day of the first exam, walk in late, take the exam, and walk out early (you WILL be noticed). When the exam scores come back, make sure your 'A' is available for all to see (without holding it up over your head and yelling "hey look at my score")."</p>
<p>That's a pretty bold move... I want to see if anyone tries it.</p>
<p>What I learned from this thread:
girls at CMU will probably be like anywhere else, only smarter and less frequent
there's a strange coupling rush during orientation
I should bring some nice clothes
I should work on my dance moves ;)</p>
<p>cmonyuk: All of your observations are perfectly correct. They ring true with my experience.</p>
<p>It's of course not unheard of for couples to form during the year, but almost all of the couples I know were formed during or shortly after orientation.</p>
<p>As for the grade-flaunting move, I would be hesitant to try that for fear of coming off as an arrogant know-it-all. But, whatever works for you, I guess.</p>
<p>Goodness, realize that you’re going to CMU, not Florida State, not ASU, not Ohio State, and so on. Academics is the main focus here. Everyone is driven, everyone wants to succeed; that’s what gives this school it’s reputation.</p>
<p>Nevertheless, it is still a college and with that, there are going to be girls and guys which vary in physical attractiveness. There are going to be parties and there are going to be. </p>
<p>If you are a social person, you will find attractive girls. If you are perhaps a bit introverted, you can still meet attractive girls around in your classes and organizations. </p>
<p>Also, realize that getting “the hottest girl” is not really something that many people care about. Like I said, we’re CMU not some state university.</p>
<p>Me! Then again, neither my boyfriend nor I are going to win the Hottest CMU Student award anytime soon. </p>
<p>But unsurprisingly, we’re cool with that. Once people mentally age past sixteen they begin to realize that life is about more than being “really really ridiculously good looking.”</p>