<p>I'm seriously considering attending either of these schools, but they seem very similar. I visited Colby and loved it, but I haven't had the chance to visit Colgate. How do you think they compare in terms of students, academics, and anything else?</p>
<p>Size–Colgate is a bit bigger.
Sports–D1 at Colgate vs. D3 at Colby
Location–Colby is in an old mill town, Colgate is literally in the middle of nowhere</p>
<p>Colgate is in the small town of Hamilton, NY in a rural farmland setting. The university and town facilities and programs tie in well together and the distance from the Colgate chapel on the Hill to the town center is a 5-10 minute walk. The town has the Colgate Inn, the university bookstore, the Palace theater and the town’s movie theater which all accommodate Colgate activities, alongside the usual college eateries and other amenties. These are all linked with the campus by the Colgate Cruiser service which also ties in the large Price Chopper supermarket less than 5 minutes from the town center.</p>
<p>Hamilton in the virtual geographic center of NY state and includes some off campus residence choices for upperclassmen too. It is within 20 minutes of the much larger towns such as Oneida and Norwich with Walmarts for other major shopping needs. Hamilton College is about 25 minutes way, Utica about 15 minutes further along. Syracuse is about 45 minutes from Colgate with its airport another 15 minutes further along.</p>
<p>Just so you get a clearer picture of Colgate before you visit!</p>
<p>I’ve just checked both schools’ websites. Colgate is actually much larger with almost 1,000 more students and over 110 more full time faculty.</p>
<p>Good luck with your evaluations!</p>
<p>From what I can tell, students at Colgate are mostly from NY and NJ, while Colby has a lot more New Englanders.</p>
<p>I’m amazed by how many people I know who are profoundly disturbed by the toothpaste images that come with Colgate. Hey, it’s not like it’s Pepto U or Vagisil College.</p>
<p>I’m not sure why the toothpaste image is anymore troubling than the fact that Duke University was founded by a man who addicted millions to cigarettes – or Carnegie-Mellon founded by money donated by two ruthless robber barons. Many universities carry names of 19th century donors – Vanderbilt was a railroad tycoon, Stanford was the same. This is actually somewhat of an honor, if you think about it. After all what do students at Harvey Mudd College have to live with? Beaver College actually changed its name (to Arcadia U or some such name) partly because of the jokes. This is, of course, very silly stuff that only 14 year old boys and some immature adults are bothered by. </p>
<p>The Colgate family was a major manufacturer of soap and other products. They sent some of their kids to Madison University (Colgate’s previous name), and donated tons of money. So, in gratitude, the university renamed itself. It’s a nice story and completely true. It’s not a whole lot different from Cornell which received big bucks from Ezra Cornell. Even Brown was named after an early colonial merchant who gave money, Moses Brown. If a young person is bothered by the fact that a current brand of toothpaste carries the name Colgate, they might want to consider a little history. And they could always claim that whenever their amused friends buys a tube of that toothpaste, they are indirectly helping to finance your alma mater! So there, Cornell!</p>
<p>Colgate is a good deal larger by about 50% than Colby. But, really, both schools are top schools and you choose the one you like more. Colgate has a massive number of off campus programs and a huge number of students (more than half) who go overseas which makes it much different from Colby in that regard. Colgate is a more famous name in colleges, it plays at the Division I level in athletics while Colby is somewhat stuck in the lower levels of Div III sports which are more an extension of high school sports than serious college athletics. No offense, but I have a nephew at Bates and another at Trinity,both colleges in the same NESCAC league as Colby, and it’s sports mainly for fun. Colgate plays in the Patriot League against Georgetown, Lehigh, the Ivies and others. Very different. </p>
<p>For what it’s worth, my daughter was admitted to both Colby and Colgate two years ago, and having visited neither school (!) she decided without hesitation that the larger size, strong academics, and top athletics of Colgate was what she preferred. </p>
<p>Colgate is not only a large university than Colby but has more extensive academic programs, as well. Colby has a very small college feel to it with academics as good as Colgate, no doubt. </p>
<p>As to location, neither is enviable. Colgate is in the middle of nowhere in the geographical center of New York State, about an hour south of the not very pretty city of Syracuse. It’s out in farm country and the weather is wintry for four or more months. Hamilton is a small fairly pretty little town with some decent restaurants and a few other options, but not much more. </p>
<p>Colby is in Waterville, Maine which is in the North Woods, frankly. It’s about three hours from Boston which is where out of the region students have to get to to get a plane home. Syracuse, one hour from Hamilton, NY, is a lot easier to get to from Colgate in order to fly elsewhere. </p>
<p>You really have to visit both schools to make the most informed decision, I’m afraid, but their differences in size and emphasis may make them easier to decide between.</p>
<p>^ Georgetown is not in the Patriot League bro. </p>
<p>and Colgate hardly has “top athletics”, they don’t have a football team and finished the year 7-23 in basketball.</p>
<p>uhhhh, Bro. At least phone it in before your interview with a little research. [Patriot</a> League Official Athletic Site](<a href=“http://www.patriotleague.org/sports/m-footbl/patr-m-footbl-body.html]Patriot”>http://www.patriotleague.org/sports/m-footbl/patr-m-footbl-body.html)<br>
I used a little thing called the world wide web to find the Patriot League standings where you can see Gtown in the standings (behind that team from Colgate).</p>
<p>Try google as well…plug in “top 20 lacrosse teams in 2011”. Red Raiders. Bro.</p>
<p>In basketball Georgetown play in the Big East bro. Patriot League is 1-AA when it comes to football. </p>
<p>And Colgate have a good lacrosse program but so does Stony Brooke, I’d hardly call them an elite sports school.</p>
<p>Georgetown plays Big East basketball, and Patriot League football.</p>
<p>And yes, Colgate does play football, “bro”</p>
<p>Georgetown is the Patriot League for most sports, but not basketball.</p>
<p>Duckss, Colgate doesn’t have a football team?! Please, bro. Thousands of Colgate alums are rolling in their graves. Do a google search to get some idea of the long and successful history of football at Colgate (1AA recently - playing Georgetown in Patriot League games, but D1 in the not so distant past). While you are at it, take a quick look at the tradition of Colgate hockey (D1). The hoops teams have both been in a down cycle for the last few years, but you have to give props to the out of conference schedule the mens team played this year - including Syracuse, Maryland and Duke. Mens soccer is consistently strong, lax has been pretty good. Colgate athletics is known as a strong D1 program in most sports.</p>
<p>This is an important consideration for some students. I know my older S viewed Colgate athletics as a real plus.</p>
<p>Colgate went 11-28 and finished last in the conference for hockey this year so that’s not really a point to brag upon.</p>
<p>And it doesn’t matter if they played Duke and Syracuse in basketball, they weren’t even slightly competitive.</p>
<p>Every single statement you’ve made about Colgate athletics is wrong. Colgate does play football and has for over a hundred years. It plays football in the Patriot League along with Georgetown. Its hockey team had a poor record but still beat two of the top teams in the ECAC and made it into the championship tournament this year where it finally lost to one of the best college hockey teams in the country, Yale. And its basketball team, like all Colgate teams, challenges itself against the best teams it can find which this year included both Duke and Syracuse. Not that any of these facts impresses someone as knowledgeable about sports as you are.</p>
<p>I think the mature thing to do at this point would be to admit that you made an awful lot of mistakes about Colgate athletics, a topic you are quite astonishingly misinformed about. Then, I suggest you apologize for wasting everyone’s time. Bro.</p>
<p>^ this guy is a ■■■■■■.</p>
<p>Syracuse beat Colgate 100-43 and went on a 34-4 run, really don’t know how you are trying to speak positively on this event. </p>
<p>And, no, Colgate didn’t make it into the “championship tournament”. If you mean the conference tournament, every team in the conference plays in that event. </p>
<p>Bottom line is Colgate isn’t an elite level school when it comes to sports. They might have a decent team every once in a while but they aren’t like Duke, USC, Miami or Texas.</p>
<p>Back to the original question:wasn’t it Colgate v Colby? Sounds like you’re leaning toward Colby?</p>
<p>Just a minute… I will have to draw a line under your juvenile reference to “■■■■■■”. Further, I have to wonder if you are ready to participate on this forum. What are you trying to achieve here? Your credibility is among the lowest of the low on account of your behavior.</p>
<p>Now about Colgate… Colgate is an elite liberal arts college with the feel of a university. Relatively small yet intimate and thereby unique in D1. And the quality of its programs, in the context of the Patriot League, the ECAC, its resources, its administration, its alumni support, and many other factors speak for themselves. No, Colgate is not “like” these large universities with their massive intercollegiate athletics budgets.</p>
<p>If you insist on making random quasi-comparisons without appreciating what’s special about Colgate, well, you won’t get a look into what makes us proud of our storied athletics. Fortunately, others get it… We select our student athletes from the strongest scholastic applicants who appreciate the extreme demands of D1. We have dedicated and experienced coaches, all of whom emphasize academics first and foremost, inculcating realistic goals which we manage for success on and off the field. How best to sum up what Colgate delivers in athletics to its community of parents, alumni, friends and current students? Colgate has the top graduation rate in D1 in the US! If and when you look at the NCAA’s list I am sure that you will agree that we are in elite company- as an elite.</p>
<p>bro you’re coming off as a little arrogant.</p>
<p>all i’m saying is Colgate isn’t an elite sports school, no need to get so salty. Other small colleges such as Davidson manage to compete with the likes of Duke in college basketball, wheres Colgate bro?</p>
<p>Bro. Thank God the overuse of that word in this thread makes me almost certain in what I don’t want in a college.</p>
<p>cardshark, according to this: <a href=“http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/colgate-university/1121441-how-difficult-transfer.html[/url]”>http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/colgate-university/1121441-how-difficult-transfer.html</a>, Duckss is not a Colgate student, so don’t look to them as a reflection of the school…</p>