College admission on instate or out of state? CA

<p>If I went to a CA college, after establishing residency in a year and working and renting an apartment with no support from parents within that year, paying all taxes, but fafsa still deems me as dependant, will I still be able to get in-state tuition rates? can i get some insight on this, it's really confusing and I tried researching it myself</p>

<p>California has rules intended to prevent carpetbagging state residency.</p>

<p>[Legal</a> Residence Information - Office Of The Registrar](<a href=“http://registrar.berkeley.edu/legalinfo.html]Legal”>http://registrar.berkeley.edu/legalinfo.html)</p>

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<p>Generally yes, if you are 100% financially independent, i.e, zero money from your parents. You would be eligible for instate tuition after after one year. (you would have to appeal, but your appeal should be successful.)</p>

<p>Im intent on making CA my permanent home, as I said I will be establishing residency, but if fafsa deems me dependant because im not 24, does that make me pay OOS fees? </p>

<p>EDIT: @bluebayou alright thanks, a little more feedback from others would be great too</p>

<p>and how do you think this would affect my financial aid package? like would I get a staggering amount less, such as being exempt from grants and others?</p>

<p>Beast, did you read ucbalum’s link? You’re not going to be able to establish Calif. residency on your own.</p>

<p>sikorsky, Can you elaborate? I couldn’t find out why I cant establish residency on my own.</p>

<p>From ucbalum’s link:</p>

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<p>Which of the six conditions applies to you?</p>

<p>And I’ll add, if you’re financially independent, who’ll be paying your college tuition and other expenses? Will you be? With money you earned, and not your parents’ money? If not, you’re not going to pass the “financial independence” test.</p>

<p>I have a job now, so in this one year if my parents dont claim me as dependant on their tax reform, then on the next in which I am in CA, will that follow on condition 6?<br>
Also yes, I will be paying for the tuition, be it from aids, scholarships, then resorting to loans. I’m also deciding to go to a community college and then transferring to a UC school.</p>

<p>So with condition 6, I’ll prove my financial independance to be eligible for in-state tuition right?</p>

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<p>And all your living expenses, right?</p>

<p>Aid may be a problem, though, if you’re still under 24. I believe that if you’re under 24, unmarried, never served in the military, have no child or other dependent of your own, and not orphaned or emancipated by a family court, your parents’ income will determine your eligibility for need-based aid, even if they’re not supporting you.</p>

<p>yes ofc living expenses also…who else would pay for them? most likely will be taking out loans though, and my parents don’t make much, always had free lunch at school… so it doesn’t matter where I go, just hope they give me an okay amount of aid so I won’t be so much in debt</p>

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<p>Nope. As long as the OP can demonstrate financial independence, job, income, etc, which is enough to cover ALL living expenses and any local college tuition, the state cannot and will not deny that the OP is a resident for all intents and purposes. California is difficult, but one of the easier states in which to gain instate tuition. The key is to be able to document 100% financial independence. Of course, OP will have to live in state for 12 months prior to appealing for instate tuition rates.</p>

<p>alright thats good, it’s okay to have a room mate to help pay rent for my year in CA to establish residency right? preferbly my cousin, who’s a resident of CA atm</p>

<p>But, bluebayou, in that post of mine you quoted, I wasn’t talking about Calif. residency. I was talking about the OP’s plan to fund his schooling with aid, scholarships and loans. I was pointing out that determination of a student’s eligibility for financial aid is a separate process from determining his residency status, and a middle-class student would have a hard time funding his entire existence in college with “aid, scholarships and loans.”</p>

<p>But if the OP’s family’s circumstances are as straitened as he says…well, first of all, that’s quite unfortunate. But it does make me think that your plan might work out, Beast. I originally thought you were just one more CC poster who believed he’d found a clever way to game he system. If I jumped to a wrong conclusion, I apologize.</p>

<p>I’ll just throw in my 1 cent, not even 2.<br>
The complexity of the rules is to prevent abuse, from the state’s ethical and financial perspectives. Imagine the crush if everyone could manage this easily- and in a context where the mandate is to serve true instate kids first. And, CA is in such deep financial touble.</p>

<p>I made residency by one day, years ago, for grad school (just luck of the timing.) One plus (granted, this was back then,) was that I had fulltime work in that first year. I’m not sure you can expect to work part-time at Starbucks or temping and use that to show intent to settle in CA. Then, of course, that income will affect aid.</p>

<p>I’d say, don’t expect to cut corners on this. It may take more than one year of feet on the ground. Have you actually pulled the forms to look at how you supply info?</p>

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<p>The OP clearly notes California in his/her title.</p>

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<p>fwiw: For grad school, California is one of the easiest states in which to gain residency for tuition purposes.</p>

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<p>See the connection? :D</p>

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<p>Sure, but again you must be able to demonstrate – with records – 100% financial independence. (And that may include health insurance.)</p>

<p>Can you explain the 100% financial independence with records? I know I’m going to be alone without financial help from the parents, what do you think I need to get?</p>

<p>by records, I mean paystubs from your employers. You need to be able to document enough income to pay taxes, rent, lights, food, health insurance, car payments/insurance, and all of your other bills, including any tuition/books for coursework that you might take while instate.</p>

<p>With all of these records, you can then show UC that it costs xx dollars to live in your apartment and eat and that you are earning yy dollars which covers it all.</p>

<p>oh ok, and if i receive rent from my room mate I keep track of that too right?</p>

<p>and is health insurance required?</p>

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<p>It is at least a good idea have something that covers large medical bills that you cannot cover yourself. For example, consider how you would pay the bill if you get injured and have to go to the emergency room.</p>