<p>GU undergrad prestige wouldn’t play any real role in law school admissions since LS admissions is a lot more straight forward and basically a numbers game - it might be a factor in legal employment because that’s a lot more nuanced. Your legal employment will rely almost entirely on where you went to law school and the grades you received in the context of GULC prestige. GULC has a significantly better shot than BC or BU at landing certain BIGLAW employment, but not a better shot than Yale or Stanford in terms of prestige/pedigree. </p>
<p>Your internships (unless incredibly impressive - like White House Chief of Staff intern type level) probably won’t be addressed outright during the admissions process other than a talking point in a potential interview. Interning for a Congressman might not mean that much (I go to a commuter school in MA and I know three Poli Sci majors who have interned for two U.S. Senators - it’s great, but it’s just sort of common. Especially for D.C. area schools, I imagine – know a few girls from American who interned for Markey the past year.)</p>
<p>Extracurriculars mean close to nothing if they aren’t truly national/international top notch standard. Remember, a lot of people aren’t K-JDs and spend some time in the workforce/real world before applying to law school; so the applicant pool includes people who might have been investment bankers, distinguished combat veterans, PhDs, etc - so the wow factor of an internship wanes in comparison.</p>
<p>No debt is great; especially for people who have interests in the legal field that aren’t necessarily high paying. If you were really passionate about public defense, for instance, not having debt would mean you wouldn’t feel pressured to take a high paying/high stress job you hate to service your debt; you could dedicate yourself to lower paying, more interesting job prospects. </p>
<p>So T14 is essentially the minimum for Biglaw and that takes roughly 3.7/170 for bottom of T14. From initial research it seems like LSAT score is worth about twice as much as GPA and high GPA doesn’t make up for low LSAT, so the focus should especially be on high LSAT. </p>
<p>Would you say there is a regional bias in getting employment after law school? Should one prioritize the location of a law school over prestige/fit to get to a desired city? When you say ECs that aren’t national standard are nothing, is that because it is expected of you to have similar ECs to a certain standard or because they actually don’t care about them? </p>
<p>1) Applicants get a bump a little less than 1 LSAT point for HYPS undergrad, everyone else no one cares. HLS would take a 4.0 English major from Western Michigan State over a 3.6 Biology major from UChicago. </p>
<p>2) Depends on the job you want, but the market’s not too hot right now. In DC, the market’s particularly messed up. </p>
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<p>Depends. If you want to work in Boston, and only Boston, and never have a chance outside of Boston, go to BC/BU for law (that is a bit of an exaggeration, but if you’re not top 15% and on law review, then you’re stuck in Boston–you’re lucky to get a job at all). The T6 place well into biglaw. UVA does alright in DC biglaw. GULC loves to put kids in government jobs, but a big hiring freeze just ended, and they’re completely stuck. Many firms stopped coming to GULC OCI, and the Dean freaked out about that, cause employment numbers are gonna drop even more. There’s a pretty big jump in dat law school prefstige from Cornell -> GULC, especially wrt biglaw placement. A lot of people think GULC should be knocked out of the T14 and on par with Vandy/Texas. </p>
<p>Overall, fit is meaningless in deciding where to go to law school. It’s all about scholarship money. You’re gonna wanna get a killer GPA and a killer LSAT to have a chance at copping some scholarship money to CCN if you want biglaw. People hate on GULC because they don’t shell out $$$ like most other top law schools. </p>
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<p>EC’s that matter: TFA, Fulbright, Rhodes. Maybe some other stuff on that level. Otherwise, no one really cares, and those EC’s only help applicants who’re below the median. Harvard Law probably won’t accept a 3.2/170 even if the kid has a doctorate, was a Fulbright scholar, and did TFA, but if he was a 3.7/173 (or a splitter with a salvageable GPA), the EC’s might be a reason for acceptance. “If the numbers are there, we don’t care.”</p>
<p>It’s not expected everyone has any EC’s. I talked to a 1L at HLS over on TLS and she had literally no EC’s, except some paid work on her school’s paper. She just had a killer LSAT/GPA and now she’s at Harvard.</p>
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<p>Even if you get in your junior year, I’d recommend taking the LSAT and trying for higher ranked schools. It all depends on what you want to do, but sticker at GULC is never a good idea. If your grades/LSAT are good enough, you can possibly snatch a Hammy/Ruby from Columbia/UChicago and be set. The internships are good, but they won’t make a huge difference. </p>
<p><a href=“Top Law Schools - Index page”>http://top-law-schools.com/forums</a> is the CC for law school applicants, only everyone’s extremely chill. Law school admissions being 90% a numbers game really makes things more predictable, so everyone usually knows what they can and can’t achieve. I’ve spent the past year or so lurking over there, and I’ve seen preamble a few times, so that’s where we’re getting all of our info re: ls admissions. Warning though: search before you post over there. Many questions’ve already been answered.</p>
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<p>Eh, I can’t see a Latham partner hiring a GULC JD/GTown ugrad over a HLS grad, assuming they’re both median. GULC isn’t great for biglaw placement (40%), and especially with what’s going on with firms not showing up to GULC’s OCI. DC biglaw is the hardest market to break into. HLS grads around the median are having some trouble breaking into DC, even with ties. UVA has decent DC placement. GULC’s DC placement isn’t great, and is gonna put more grads in lower ranked firms.</p>
<p>If you want a government gig, the GTown undergrad might help a bit, but it still wouldn’t bring you close to the opportunities a median grad would have near the top of the T14. </p>
<p>Tbh, it’s a pretty bleak market.</p>
<p>Anyway, that was a good amount of procrastination for the night–time to get back to studying. Post anymore questions if you have them though!</p>
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<p>Yep! Corporate law. Good with humanities and math/business. </p>
<p>When your professor says the midterm is ONLY on lectures/powerpoints and not on the readings that you haven’t done for the past three weeks. Thank GOD. I won’t be spending Columbus Day Weekend reading 200 pages in neglected textbook chapters; it literally made my entire life. </p>
<p>I salute you pre-law students; that doesn’t seem easy. Also, is it just me, but I hate labeling myself as pre-whatever, because it makes me feel weird… It’s hard to explain, but I rarely bring up that I’m pre-vet when people ask about my major and future plans. I feel like I’m giving people a false hope, kind of like they are expecting me to become a doctor or whatever.</p>
<p>I just had two midterms - one was take home and the other was administered in class today. I got an A on my take home one (it was seriously curved; I think the class average was a 50 or something, so anything higher than a 72 was considered an A). </p>
<p>I had a midterm today for religion which I studied like crazy for - I used the long weekend to type a study guide and read through my notes half a dozen times; despite being terribly sick with food poisoning. It was really easy and I probably shouldn’t have gone as overboard as I did with the studying; most of the concepts that I studied extensively only appeared as simple multiple choice questions, lol. </p>
<p>I have a midterm tomorrow - it’s an essay. She gave us the prompt a week ago, and it’s basically just summarizing three units we studied under one single theme, which I did already in a rough draft. </p>
<p>I have five classes and three of them have had midterms: real analysis (83% :(), probability theory (98%), and programming (unknown but probably bad). My freshman seminar doesn’t have exams, and my economics class has tests pretty frequently so we don’t have any special comprehensive tests.</p>
<p>Here is one of the multiple-choice questions on my economics homework. After everything else, I’m always grateful for things like this. </p>
<p>A student might describe information about the costs of production as</p>
<p>a) crucial to understanding firms and market structures.<br>
b) boring.<br>
c) dry and technical.<br>
d) All of the above could be correct.</p>
<p>@halyconheather - My religion midterm had questions like;
“Which of the following disciplines had origins associated with imperialism and colonialism?
A) Feminism
B) Sociology
C) Anthropology
D) Instagram”</p>
<p>“What might oracles of ancient henotheism say about the New England Patriots?
A) We’re definitely going to win the Super Bowl
B) The answer is A” </p>
<p>Criminal Justice midterm: 98%
Logic midterm: 97%
Methods of analysis in political science midterm: Taking it Monday</p>
<p>Anyone else get mildly irritated when they get a score that’s almost perfect but isn’t? I scored 49/50 and 14.5/15 (resp) on those two tests and it drives me crazy. (I don’t know which question I missed for Crim, but in logic I forgot to double negate before I applied modus tollens so -.5 on a proof)</p>
<p>The CS 2 exam was an absolute ■■■■ show. The median was a 63 and A was an 84+. This class is also notoriously one of the hardest in the department, so I’m not surprised with the results, but I’m disappointed. </p>
<p>@Vctory - I got a cutoff A- for an assignment; I think an A is a 94 or higher and I got a 93 which is the upper limit for an A-. It drove me insane because I got a point off for the most careless error. (We don’t have A+ so an A is 94-100).</p>
<p>I got an 100 on my Chinese mid-term!! It took a lot of studying, but I did it! I have a mid-term for psychology next week which I know I’m about to bomb… and a English mid-term tomorrow…</p>
<p>Well, I think my Chem midterm went pretty well! Hopefully the curve is generous…introductory science classes at my current school are curved to around a C, so that’s the only scary thing, haha. And I need to get a 3.5 cumulative GPA every quarter if I want to complete my guaranteed transfer to Cornell, otherwise I have to stay here. I mean, that’s not such a bad thing–but I’d like to decide that, not my transcript </p>
<p>It’s awesome that you guys are all acing your exams. I think we’ve trumped our senioritis!</p>
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