Hi there,
I’m looking for a reliable source on college cross-admit data.
For example, I’m looking for (recent) data on how many students chose Harvard over Yale, or Yale over UPenn, or Williams over Yale… stuff like that. I’ve see single statistics cited from time to time, but is there one comprehensive source for this type of information?
Thanks!
<p>The closest thing to what you're asking for is the Revealed Preference survey, which used pretty unimpeachable methodology. Bear in mind, though, that the differences between schools ranked close together are often very small. Here's a short thread discussing it:</p>
<p>Carnegie Mellon's Factbook 2005 on page 2.5 lists Their Top 15 Competing Schools for Cross Applicants and Cross Admissions.</p>
<p>It doesn't give numbers of students though.</p>
<p>raven you should raise this point with byerly..and with a straight face too.</p>
<p>Like, the other day I was saying to myself, self....</p>
<p>I have a question about cross admits too. I brought this up on the
Pton waitlist thread but this is probably a better spot for this discussion.
I see two new factors which should affect yield at Pton and Harvard and also change the number of cross admits. 1. Harvards new fin aid
policy should draw apps from some who would not have applied to
H last year. 2. Pton accepting the
common app will draw more apps from HYS SCEA admits because it is
so easy this year for them to apply to Pton RD just to see if they can get in.
I would think that Harvard's yield should go up if the new fin aid policy
really is a better plan. I also think that Pton will have a lower yield
because they will lose some to H because of the fin aid but mostly because although they got 20% more apps, some percentage of them
were probably apps from HYS SCEA admits looking to see if they could
get in now that it is easy to apply.
I see no real reflection in H's yield prediction this year of 79 vs 78% last year and little in Pton's projected yield by their RD admit numbers.
These two changes should also substantially increase the cross admits.</p>
<p>Quit trolling, Kalidescope.</p>
<p>Hanna:</p>
<p>if you search thru cc, you'll note that many folks had significant problems with the survey you mentioned, which any AP Stat student would easily figure out.</p>
<p>sorry to bump this thread, but I was looking for the same thing. I recall there was a table that compared the top colleges in terms of how many students went where compared to another college. I can't seem to find it on CC, so I'd appreciate it if anyone could point me to the right direction.</p>
<p>Insane, the NY Times had an article on this (below), but in the original Week in Review article, it had a great graphic with it, but I don't see it now.</p>
<p>HTH.</p>
<p>you need to give credit card information for that link...even though it says its free. Anyone know anywhere else?</p>
<p>Okay, here's the pertinent info from that article. It may not even be what you want--but at least you don't have to shell out money to make that determination.</p>
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A few years ago, a group of economists surveyed 3,200 top high school seniors at 500 schools across the country, asking them which colleges had admitted them and which one they would attend. With this information, the researchers could estimate how often students chose one college over another.</p>
<p>Among those who were admitted to both Harvard and Duke -- sometimes called the Harvard of the South -- and who attended one of the two, about 3 percent picked Duke, according to the economists' statistical model. Only 11 percent chose Brown, perhaps the trendiest Ivy League university in recent years, over Harvard. Princeton and Stanford win only about 25 percent of their battles with Harvard. Yale gives the stiffest competition, winning about 35 percent of the time, which in politics would be considered a crushing landslide.</p>
<p>For any college contemplating the end of early admissions, the implications are plain enough. ''There are a lot of people who apply to Yale early or to Princeton early,'' said Andrew Metrick, one of the economists who did the study and a professor at the University of Pennsylvania, ''who might choose to go to Harvard if they got in.''</p>
<p>Dozens of other colleges would be even more vulnerable to losing their best applicants. Today, students often choose to apply early to a college where they think they have a good chance of being admitted, rather than to one that seems like a long shot. Understanding this, admissions officers are happy to admit so many students early. As Ellen Fisher, college adviser at the Bronx High School of Science, said, the officers often ask themselves, ''Is this someone we might lose if we don't take early?''</p>
<p>There are caveats to Harvard's dominance. Every year, about 20 percent of the students it accepts turn it down, evidently deciding that prestige is not everything. If early admissions were to go away, some high school seniors would still find themselves able to resist the lure of a Harvard acceptance letter.</p>
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<p>I was going to start a new thread, but used Search instead, and dredged up this old thread.</p>
<p>Cross-admit matriculation data are the most valuable and telling of statistics, and perhaps as a result are the most closely held. If anyone has any links to cross-admit data or tables, please post them here.</p>
<p>The New York Times article discussed in the post above is here:</p>
<p>Ending</a> Early Admissions: Guess Who Wins? - New York Times</p>
<p>The table from the article is here:</p>
<p>The</a> New York Times > Week in Review > Image > Collegiate Matchups: Predicting Student Choices</p>
<p>It was based on the NBER study:</p>
<p>Discussion of cross-admits at Stanford faculty minutes:</p>
<p>Faculty</a> Senate minutes - June 12, 2008 meeting</p>
<p>CC HYPSM cross-admit thread:</p>
<p>If you Google [“college</a> cross-admit”](<a href=“"college cross-admit" - Google Search”>"college cross-admit" - Google Search), the first page has a couple of sites that cover this topic. One in particular lets you select schools to compare, including all of the UCs.</p>