College Dilemma

<p>That is $5,550 of federal stafford loans. There are other options for getting money. I plan on working during the school year. If it’s impossible for students to attend college out of state, how are so many doing it? I know not every student is an A+ student and high ACT score that is doing out of state college. I don’t see it possible to just “change” my list, especially since have applied to 13 schools in which my family has invested a lot of money into (especially schools with $75 app fees and also $12 PER act score sent). IF money ends up being that big of an issue as to where I can’t do it, my family would pay all of it or as much as they needed to for me to get by. I retested and my ACT score is now a 26. I have a few safety schools such as Texas State and Kentucky that were cheaper, but I did not apply to any in state schools. Also, there is only ONE in state school that offers my major, and it’s private and extremely expensive, therefore I wouldn’t end up saving any money even by doing that option. It is also extremely competitive.</p>

<p>Out of state public universities are not the same as out of state private universities. Out of state private universities may value your application from far away and thus reward you. Public universities exist to serve the needs of in state applicants. Out of state applicants have to pay extra, often double if not more than what instate students have to pay and they don’t get state grants, only federal aid. It’s estimated students can make about $2,500 a year through work study and probably another $2,000 if they work all summer, plus your $5,500 loan. So you have to make SURE your family will pay the difference. Run NPCs with them and ask them point blank whether the amount is acceptable.
You’ve already applied to a lot of schools.
Can you add one more, that would be a financial and academic safety?
You’re right, many students go out of state. But they don’t go to expensive public universities, they may go to private universities (where tuition is the same regardless of state of origin) and where they may get deep discount based on their stats and profile.
In addition, students who go out of state don’t necessarily have your stats. OOS students who get scholarships at Alabama need to have 30 for engineering or 32 otherwise, unless they’re content with a very small scholarship that hardly makes a dent at all.
Wait until you have all your admission letters and all your financial aid awards before you make a decision. What have your parents said so far (beside “congratulations”, I hope :p)?
The 26 is pretty good but your GPA will hurt you at many schools.
If your state does not have your major in-state, is it part of an “academic exchange” program where you pay in state or quasi in state fees at the public university in your region that offers that major?</p>

<p>If it’s impossible for students to attend college out of state, how are so many doing it? I know not every student is an A+ student and high ACT score that is doing out of state college.</p>

<p>Who said that it’s “impossible” for students to go to college OOS???</p>

<p>Many are doing it by having their parents pay the costs. Some others have the stats to get enough merit to get the costs down. Some that qualify for FA get into private schools that give them aid.</p>

<p>Typically, what doesn’t work is a situation where a student is supposed to come up with $20k per year on their own.</p>

<p>*I retested and my ACT score is now a 26. *</p>

<p>Congrats. Look into Miss St and Truman State.</p>

<p>Did you look at few midwest schools like Miami university in Oxford Ohio. I read they have a good business school. All depends where you planning to practice Law thats where you should get your law degree. Alabama will be just fine for South.</p>

<p>*IF money ends up being that big of an issue as to where I can’t do it, my family would pay all of it or as much as they needed to for me to get by. *</p>

<p>Good. </p>

<p>What is your major and career goal?</p>

<p>At this point I really want to go Texas A&M, second choice Baylor, third choice Auburn. My major is International Business, and I want to go to law school after for Business Law and eventually be a lawyer. Hopefully working out of New York or Chicago but based in another country like the U.K. I’m going to study American and European law. MYOS1634, I live in Wisconsin and unfortunately we do not do any type of cheaper tuition with our sister states.</p>

<p>live in Wisconsin and unfortunately we do not do any type of cheaper tuition with our sister states.</p>

<p>??</p>

<p>Don’t you have cheaper tuition with the Minnesota schools?</p>

<p>University of Wisconsin Madison is a very good school so is Marquette.
Other good option is NWU in Chicago but very competitive and expensive too. Did you look into Ohio or Michigan. </p>

<p>If I like to work in NY or Chicago I be looking at schools in these cities.</p>

<p>Yes Wisconsin has an exchange that allows you to study in the Twin Cities as if you were in-state, a very good deal, and their business school is well-respected.
The best college for international business is U South Carolina, I assume you applied there? It’s very hard to get into though.
For international law, you’ll need to have close to a major’s level in a foreign language. For Canada, French. For the European Union, French and/or German. For South America, Spanish and Portuguese. For Asia, Chinese, but it’s very very hard to learn.</p>

<p>ps: considering that you’ve already started on 4 languages and seem to be good at learning them, I’d definitely consider USC-Columbia’s International Business program, emphasizing your language skills.</p>

<p>“I would like to work in either New York or Chicago, which is why I’m wondering which college will look best in those cities.”</p>

<p>None of the schools you are looking at, with the exception of maybe UT, are going to be looked highly upon by businesses in NY or Chicago.</p>

<p>Have you looked into slightly more prestigious schools in the northeast or near Chicago?
I would try looking at schools that have better reputations? I would try and stay away from the schools that are better known for their sports programs than their academics.</p>

<p>You can use US News as a guide and shoot for the highest ranked school you can afford in the northeast or near Chicago.</p>

<p>dadfor2014, Madison is MUCH too liberal for me, and Marquette I have toured, and it wasn’t a good fit. It’s in a terrible area and neither my parents nor I felt that it was a good fit for me. I looked into Ohio State a bit, but not Michigan because I could not get into U of Michigan. </p>

<p>MYOS1634, I was previously interested in U Minnesota, but again, much too liberal for me. I did indeed apply to USC Columbia, if not accepted I could always try to transfer there. I also applied to Clemson but haven’t heard back yet. I am fluent in French, and intermediate in Mandarin Chinese, Italian and Spanish so all of those besides Italian could potentially help me in the business world (French in Europe of course). I am touring Drake University next week, I know they have a good business program so we’ll see how that goes. </p>

<p>Informative, I am going to do my undergrads elsewhere because I don’t know if I will be able to get into a more prestigious east coast school at this time. I want to do law school on the east coast, which like others said, is what potential future employers will be looking at anyway. Thanks for the suggestions!</p>

<p>UMN’s business school is more conservative than the school as a whole, so I think you should give it a try. It may help for a Chicago Law School. Then again, you may be one among a dozen (more like, ten dozens), so perhaps UA is better for your purpose…</p>

<p>You could also apply to Dickinson College - fairly conservative, especially compared to UWisconsin, good International Business& Management program with compulsory advanced Language&Culture courses, 13 different languages offered (including French, Italian, Chinese, and Spanish), excellent study abroad programs. Run the Net Price Calculators first, of course, to see if it’d be affordable. Academically it’d be a reach though. You’d have to emphasize your language learning (do you have SAT Subjects? If not, French, Spanish and Italian are all offered in December).</p>

<p>I will look into Dickinson College, and more into UMN. I haven’t taken the subject tests, but I definitely could. Study abroad and foreign languages are high priorities for what I want in a college so that one sounds appealing. Thank you!</p>

<p>If you could score well on three foreign language tests, that’d definitely be of interest for Dickinson - and would help you since their average SAT score is within range for you, but their undisclosed-but-understood GPA is much higher than yours. Also, I believe they have a pretty good record getting people into law school.
[Dickinson</a> College - International Business & Management](<a href=“http://www.dickinson.edu/academics/programs/international-business-and-management/]Dickinson”>International Business & Management | Dickinson College)</p>

<p>Your situation is that you have low grades, mediocre test scores and you have financial restrictions. The fact of the matter is that unless you can afford the OOS tuition of the schools you listed (it seems from the posts on this forum that there is a very good chance you cant) you may just have to suck it up and go to an in state public university. Frankly you may not have the luxury of being able to discount universities based on the supposed political views held by the people at that university, especially if you need to save money for law school.<br>
Just take a science major of some kind or any other major outside the humanities or social sciences and you can dodge all the political issues. Besides at a state flagship there is such a big student population you are bound to meet some people with similar views, if that is really important to you.</p>

<p>I ended up applying to Marquette University also. It’s instate and I was there yesterday and it’s free to apply so I figured I might as well.</p>

<p>^^^
The fact that Marquette is instate is irrelevant cost-wise. They charge the same rate to everyone. </p>

<p>I’m guessing the cost is over $50k per year.</p>

<p>That is the only instate school that offers my major. The average price with financial aid is $25,757 and that includes room and board, books and all other expenses.</p>

<p>Use the net price calculator on the school’s web site to get a financial aid estimate relevant to you. The average price after financial aid may not be a good estimate of what they will offer you, since it varies by how many needier versus less needy students attend.</p>