College GPA at Ivy->Internship?

<p>If I end up transferring to Dartmouth, or if I stay a student at Columbia, what is about the minimum GPA neccessary for IBanking or recruitment for an ibank? Any ballpark figures?</p>

<p>Why in the name of Jobu would you want to transfer from Columbia to Dartmouth? Too far from ski resorts or something?</p>

<p>The one thing Columbia CCE is good at doing is getting you into ibanking, both internships and permanent. If you like the school, stick it out.</p>

<p>Very few kids I knew (class of '06) with less than a 3.7 landed an ibanking job, though, and those that did only got them with boutiques, months down the line. The top banks will want to see kids with a 3.9, because they have them lining up.</p>

<p>That, honestly, is hilarious. I don't even know anyone with a 3.9...</p>

<p>3.5 is usually considered the threshold.</p>

<p>Hey, some firms can be absolutely ridiculous. I had a 3.9 in mathematics from columbia and didn't even get an interview at some consulting firms I applied for. Screwing up an interview or not being a good fit is one thing, not getting an interview at all is kinda strange. I know other people with 3.9s as well, who ended up at IBM or Accenture or Deloitte consulting because none of the top strat firms would even take a look at them.</p>

<p>I'm no expert on ibanking applicants, but sometimes the process is haphazard and not even the most initially-impressive resumes may escape the trash heap. My advice is to assume it's a crapshoot, so as not to take anything personally.</p>

<p>Sincerely,
Very happy at the firm he ended up at</p>

<p>Wow 3.9. If I had that I would just go to Harvard Law school and worry about consulting later. </p>

<p>Possibly, some firms don't fully respect super-high GPAs.</p>

<p>When Ivy league schools dole out A's like there is no other grading option, it is no wonder grading value is dropping like a rock. Don't 85% or more of Harvard grads graduate "with honors"?</p>

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When Ivy league schools dole out A's like there is no other grading option, it is no wonder grading value is dropping like a rock. Don't 85% or more of Harvard grads graduate "with honors"?

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Sorry but that's total rubbish. So you think you can get a 3.9 at an Ivy school?</p>

<p>When last reported by the Spectator in 2004, I think the average GPA in Columbia College was a 3.2 and in SEAS was a 3.0. I'd sure love to see the current numbers, but that's not the point. The point is that sometimes, no GPA can get your foot in the door. Better to worry about persistence with your search, and connections.</p>

<p>From what I've heard, a 3.5 is pretty much an unofficial cutoff for most i-banks. Once your GPA's above that threshold, it's the rest of your resume that will get you an interview. But keep in mind that GPA's not as big of a criterion in i-banking as some people make it out to be. I've seen people with below 3.0's go to Goldman and people with 4.0's who were rejected by every bank they applied to. There are a lot of intangibles involved. I even heard of someone who was kicked out of an interview for using too much hair gel.</p>

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Sorry but that's total rubbish. So you think you can get a 3.9 at an Ivy school?

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<p>Actually, Tom is right -- kind of. What happened was a few years ago a huge number of Harvard students graduated with honors, I don't know if it was 85% but it was large enough for the school to make changes with the grading, so I believe now it's harder to obtain honors at Harvard.</p>

<p>I'm actually aware of that. Actually, I made a little error of including the second part of the quote, whereas I was only commenting on the first part. </p>

<p>"When Ivy league schools dole out A's like there is no other grading option"</p>

<p>Is total misinformed and incorrect.</p>

<p>lol at Princeton, A's (3.7-4.0) are limited to 30% of undergrads.</p>

<p><a href="http://www.gradeinflation.com/brown.html%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www.gradeinflation.com/brown.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p><a href="http://www.gradeinflation.com/dartmouth.html%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www.gradeinflation.com/dartmouth.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p><a href="http://www.gradeinflation.com/columbia.html%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www.gradeinflation.com/columbia.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p><a href="http://www.gradeinflation.com/harvard.html%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www.gradeinflation.com/harvard.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p><a href="http://www.gradeinflation.com/princeton.html%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www.gradeinflation.com/princeton.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p><a href="http://www.gradeinflation.com/penn.html%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www.gradeinflation.com/penn.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p><a href="http://www.gradeinflation.com/stanford.html%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www.gradeinflation.com/stanford.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>The way it SHOULD be in my opinion:</p>

<p><a href="http://www.gradeinflation.com/houston.html%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www.gradeinflation.com/houston.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p><a href="http://www.gradeinflation.com/samhouston.html%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www.gradeinflation.com/samhouston.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>My undergrad school:</p>

<p><a href="http://www.gradeinflation.com/oswego.html%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www.gradeinflation.com/oswego.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>Make your own opinion about grade inflation based on data.</p>

<p>Aurelius,
Thanks for the ad homynm attack, but let's stuck to the FACTS-please see the links I posted above. I didn't insult your academic ability because I know absolutely nothng about you. I expect the same from you, please.</p>

<p>The number I had read graduating with honors from Harvard was 91%. It was a few years ago and it seems that they've taken steps to reduce it to some degree since. </p>

<p>A 3.5 GPA may be somewhat of a threshold to overcome, but knew plenty of people who got IB analyst jobs below that. This was a little while back though, when the avg GPA for a lot of those schools was much more ~ 3.0 than it appears to be now.</p>

<p>I would agree than an avg GPA should be around 2.5, maybe closer to 3.0 for top schools. When I was at Colgate the avg GPA was ~ 2.9 and I look at tom's postings and Harvard, Stanford, Brown were at 3.4 to 3.5 during the same time period. While these schools are considered better than Colgate, I don't think it's by that much. I think that Colgate has caught the grade inflation bug a bit too since then and think its avg GPA may be more ~ 3.1 now. I now the Vietnam War is what caused avgs to go up so much in the '60s and '70s, but don't understand what has caused the more recent surge.</p>

<p>off topic-did u like Colgate? I grew up in Sherburne-Earlville and used to go to colgate often. I think the campus is stunning, I graduated HS in 1989.</p>

<p>Why isn't YAle and Cornell featured in taht grade inflation thing?</p>