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Yeah, you're right. I guess I was just trying to say that for most people I've encountered (and for myself), this number is substantially greater than two. I do concede, though, that it may not be 14 over any length of time - that was just an arbitrary number anyway.</p>
<p>Good advice.</p>
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<p>If you want to avoid that HS feel in college, then you feel just have to too suck it up and put in the work during guess what? HS! If you have that incredible determination and drive, then you'll be able to go to a Private, national institution, where people come from all over the country and all over the world. There won't be any pre-existing relationships becuase there won't be like 35 kids from the same high school heading off to your basic state university. The only thing everyone will have in common will be the fact that they excelled in HS through talent and hard work. They will all have more diverse, mature, and complex oppinions on what really matters (not who hooked up with who and who got passed out drunk on saturday night). In the end, you'll find yourself with a much more rewarding academic, social and spiritual experience. College CAN be like HS, but only if you want it to be.</p>
<p>What's wrong with eating alone? Some people who do that say they're ashamed of it, but I don't understand them. In HS I felt more comfortable eating alone. I see nothing to be ashamed of.</p>
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<p>There will always be shallow people.</p>
<p>There will always be people that care about what car you drive, what clothes you wear, how much money you make</p>
<p>Your physical attractiveness will always play a huge role in how many friends you have and it may also play a role in how many interviews/job offers you get.</p>
<p>If you are not funny and outgoing, you will still be ostracized by many of your peers.</p>
<p>Even adults are "clique-y"</p>
<p>...and the list goes on.</p>
<p>PEOPLE ARE PEOPLE. They were in high school, they will be as adults. There will be kind people, there will be evil people, there will be people in between, and there will be people that judge you and there will be people that dislike you and there will be people who think you are weird or have a vandetta against you.</p>
<p>The difference is, at each stage of your life you are given the prime opportunity to evaluate how much these people matter and how much effect they will have on how you live. So, going into college, expect there to be idiots who may think you're weird for asking to join them at lunch, and expect there will also be people who would love to have you and may become your best friends. But take those chances, be a kind person, and you'll be rewarded. Just as in high school, just as in any time in life.
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<p>Agreed 100%. Remember, humans are humans... you can't "change shallowness". I am sure MOST people can be at least "cute", you just got to either work out, or change your "style".</p>
<p>Like it or not, its physical looks first, then the personality. I don't really agree on the "clothes" part, most people here at IU don't dress up for class, they just wear a T-shirt / Hoodie.</p>
<p>If you're secure with yourself you realize it's okay to be alone sometimes!</p>
<p>Well isn't that what first impressions are for? Judging by looks. And then you just have to wow them afterwards with your personality...if they give you the chance...</p>
<p>There is an undeniable reality in life, often times it is all about who you know. You can choose to be a nice, decent person and be friendly and welcoming to all, or you can be an independent type. In the end who you know is very often the key in acquiring admissions to school, internships, research, employment, country clubs and even a great deal on a condo rental for a two week stay in Hawaii. ;) There are cliques everywhere and people of varying degrees of intellect within those cliques. Perhaps you can hide yourself away from this reality for a few years in college (though I doubt such an idealistic environment truly exists) or you can learn to deal with all types of people. You can even benefit from knowing people who are very unlike yourself. It is wise to never burn any bridges. You never know when you will need them.</p>
<p>Do you really believe that ONLY people who go to "private, national" colleges put in the work during HS, bsage32? Personally, I know people who worked incredibly hard to get into a local public school. I also know people who could pull straight A's with just a little studying. Not everyone is born into a family or school system that can support them and buy them everything they need (textbooks, computers, etc.) You could actually learn a lot by living around people who had to hold down jobs in high school to support their families and yet still had the drive to attend university, even if it's "only" a community college. But I guess they should have "sucked it up."</p>
<p>Maybe you just don't live in a place where you can meet people from all different situations in life, and that's too bad, because frankly you seem to have a very narrow view of the world.</p>
<p>It's judgemental to think that most kids who go to elite colleges and universities are automatically excellent students. I'll bet there's the occasional Harvard kid who didn't work very hard in HS and got in with Daddy's money -- although I'm not saying that this is the case with every Harvard student. I mean, everyone's different. I know a kid who didn't really care about his grades but was naturally brilliant and got into Wharton at UPenn. And I know a girl who goes to a nice public school who was #6 in my class and worked very hard at everytyhing she tried at</p>
<p>This whole topic is o.O</p>
<p>To the TC: if that type of crap affected them in high school, it's certainly going to affect them in college and then in the real world.</p>
<p>Just be what you wanna be.</p>
<p>I go to a competitive Private liberal arts school and I mean this when I say it. College is EASIER than high school and while I HATED high school, I think it was better than College.</p>
<p>My biggest piece of advice for going to college would be to have a completely open mind and don't expect too much. It sounds bad to say that, but with all teh college hype we are spoon fed in high school, NO college could live up to our expectations of a perfect higher academic experience. Protect yourself, make of your situation what you will and treat others well.</p>
<p>And don't be nervous, like I said, if you actually keep up on your work, it will be easier than high school.</p>
<p>Great post by the OP - I'd forgotten how true that was.</p>
<p>But it also makes me think of a line widely attributed to Kurt Vonnegut: "True terror is to wake up one morning and discover that your high school class is running the country." After all, those high schoolers didnt disappear.</p>
<p>Yes, some colleges provide a chance to open up, to be yourself, and to enjoy the diversity of the people around you as they too let the high school shells drop. And they can provide a kind of vaccination against all those feelings from high school, so youre finally free.</p>
<p>I had two different experiences with high school: 1) I had gone to the same private non-sectarian school since 5th grade in Orange County until my sophomore year of high school. The high school campus of my school had about 450 people total. There really was no "in" or "out" crowd and I always thought cliques were more of a TV thing. Everyone was cool w/ everyone...well almost everyone (everyone has people they don't like). There was no deal about who you would sit w/ at lunch...and sometimes people would switch tables throughout lunch. It was great. And then I moved to northern california....to a school of about 3,000 people. Were there cliques? Oh yeah. It was SUCH a culture clash. And I can honestly say there was nothing different from it and TV shows like Laguna Beach. It was like you were under a microscope every second. Everything was extremely competitive like grades, sports, college acceptances, classes, looks, car. I did make a great group of friends and the only thing I felt insecure about was the fact that I would be going to community college, but I can honestly say now that it was the best choice of my life. High school was like a distant nightmare...how immature people were and how lowly you would be classified if you did not fit the characteristics designated by who-knows-who set them. No one cares about what your gpa was in HS, you have the freedom to mold yourself in the kind of person you want to be, you don't have to worry about who you hang out with....honestly what does it matter?? It amazes me looking at back at high school and how different of a world college is in comparison. </p>
<p>I read a lot of the comments on this thread and I would agree with a lot of them.....meet as many people as you can, have fun, study hard, don't be a hermit if you have a heavy course load (even if you're pre-med like I am), don't let your grades slip though, meet your professors- a lot of them are amazing people and would be more than willing to help you with anything you ask and even open a lot of doors for you, be active in school with clubs, basically what I'm saying is enjoy college b/c it really will be the best time of your life and always keep things in balance.</p>
<p>it's exactly like high school, if you want it to be.</p>
<p>this thread is like high school... all of you need to grow up</p>
<p>College is high school with ashtrays</p>
<p>Some of you people are unbelievable. Not all public schools are flagships, and not all public schools are frat havens. Some incredibly brilliant people go to public schools that most of you would classify as "high school part two for morons." And some people go to public school for money reasons; some people don't want to go 80000 dollars in debt just so they can brag about their diploma from Elite U. Honestly, get a grip.</p>
<p>College is what you make it. If you decide that it will be HS part II it will be. If you decide that it will be a mature experience, it will be. Its not about where you go, its about what you make of your surroundings.</p>
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Exactly, I'm incredibly brilliant and attend a CCC.
btw, the ashtrays thing is kind of a running joke in the CCC system, surprised no one caught it...</p>