<p>Hi, all, new to this forum. Is college matriculation info for a high school supposed to be private? I can't seem to find how a graduating class fared in college admission. Where can I find such info if it's not in the high school's website? </p>
<p>Thanks in advance.</p>
<p>Hi, and welcome. Some high schools keep this information entirely private, some publish (in the school newspaper or bulletin, which may or may not be online) the names of the colleges the senior class will be attending, and some list each student’s name next to their college. Your best bet might be to call the school’s guidance office and ask.</p>
<p>Ask for the high school’s school profile. This document accompanies the transcript and is sent out to colleges. It usually includes a matriculation list - not with student names - just which colleges graduates have been accepted at and are attending.</p>
<p>Thanks, Booklady & rockvillemom. Is the school obligated to provide such info if I ask? Can the school say no?</p>
<p>I’m not sure that they are legally obligated - but I would find it very odd if they said no. Many schools post the current Profile on their website. Besides the matriculation info, the Profile gives a wealth of info about the hs. If you have a student at the school - I can’t imagine why they would not want you to see it.</p>
<p>Are you a parent w/ a student enrolled in the school, or the parent of a prospective student? Is the school in question prublic or private?</p>
<p>This is handled at our Career Center and college guidance department. It’s very serious business and widely sought information and most schools, public and private, keep track of this information. You might want to start asking for it through your GC.</p>
<p>Really dumb question here - how would the school necessarily know? I mean, my kids applied – the school had nothing to do with it other than moving the paperwork from here to there – the colleges notify the student, not the high school. Theoretically, couldn’t my kid apply to 10 colleges, get in all of them, pick his favorite, and the high school know nothing about it?</p>
<p>Happykid’s school made a concerted effort to find out the results of each and every college application. They use NAVIANCE to manage all of the data, and they want to keep it as up-to-date as possible. Since most colleges and universities require an official copy of the final transcript at the end of the school year and most families have that mailed directly from the guidance office, the tracking system does record the schools that most of the students intend to enroll in.</p>
<p>What is less accurate, is the data on which institution they actually DO enroll in (if they enroll at all) because plans change over the summer for any number of reasons. And of course there is very little data whatsoever on any measure of college success be it freshman year completion or four/five/six year graduation.</p>
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<p>Newbie at this here – is the onus on the student to contact his / her GC and say, “Please submit my final transcript to College X” or does the college contact the high school and say “Please send us the final transcript on Kid Y, who has indicated he will be coming here in the fall”?</p>
<p>The students at the high school which my kids attend are required to inform the school of their college choices. At graduation, a list of the students and their respective colleges are listed with the programs. The school asks each student to report at which college he/she was WL/accepted/denied. Most students comply. The guidance office then uses this information to help future classes.</p>
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<p>At our high school, the guidance office automatically sends the colleges the students’ final
transcripts (same with the mid-term reports). The students don’t need to request it. Our high school is public.</p>
<p>High schools may send mid-year grades to all colleges applied to automatically. However, they only send out ONE final transcript per student. So - they need to know which college your child will be attending so that they know where to send it. If you want to tell them other results - that’s up to you - some schools want it for naviance or other records - but that’s really your decision. But the burden is on you to request the final transcript be sent out. Don’t assume that the college will contact the hs and ask for it - that is not generally the case.</p>
<p>Not so much that the schools “automatically” send the final grades, but colleges require that the admitted student forward the final grades. I believe there is also a form the GC must complete verifying that the student has not be the subject of disclipline.</p>
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<p>"Newbie at this here – is the onus on the student to contact his / her GC and say, “Please submit my final transcript to College X” or does the college contact the high school and say “Please send us the final transcript on Kid Y, who has indicated he will be coming here in the fall”?'</p>
<p>The latter.</p>
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<p>As for OP’s question, I’m not sure. In my experience, public schools tend to guard the info more fiercely than private schools, where prospects often want to see the matriculation list (tho some school “cheat” and provide an acceptance list instead of a matric list). The stronger private schools post the matric lists on their web sites usually reporting for each college # of students who applice, # of students admitted, # of students who matriculate. One can often find the matric list (with student names) in a privte school’s annual report.</p>
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<p>Sorry - but this is not accurate info. SOME colleges may contact the hs and ask for the final transcript to be sent - most do not. The onus IS on the student to request that his or her hs send out the final transcript. This is an important step in the process - don’t assume the hs knows where you want it sent - request it in writing.</p>
<p>Thanks all for the replies. I didn’t have time to check the forum until now. I am doing research on top public high schools in Greater Boston area and rank them based on college matriculation data. Particularly I am looking at the number of students who got accepted and enrolled into top 15 elite colleges/universities in the U.S. This, I believe, is a simple and yet reliable way to rank high schools. The reason is these top colleges have done their homework on the applicants (hopefully on merits - GPA, AP, SAT, ACT, EC, etc.). If a high school has more graduates accepted by these top colleges, it shows the strength of a particular school in producing and educating top students. Most of the ranks produced by some media outlets are unreliable at best. They use criteria like school investment, student teacher ratio, family income, etc. Albeit important metrics, these KPIs are not measuring the RESULTS. Why not rank schools based on what they produce, not what they possess? The forementioned method measures the results/outcome and yet simple. Worth to point out that this method measures the capability of a HS producing elite students, not the capability of a HS producing average or relative good students at a large quantity. In massuchetts, many rankings use MCAS score as a benchmark, which I don’t believe is a good way to measure top schools on how good they produce elite students. </p>
<p>I found the Naviance website somewhat useful but without having a guest account for every HS, it’s time consuming to collect stats… I have collected about 8 HS stats but still got 10 to go. Anyone interseted in my research and willing to help out, please reach out to me, assuming you are a parent from Boston area too. ;-)</p>
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<p>IIRC the WSJ (or was it the NYT?) does a similar kind of nationwide story every so often. They pick a representative cohort of highly selective colleges, and ask those schools to provide a list of the number of students matriculating from each high school represented in their freshman class. Or something like that. Then the paper published an article ranking high schools based on this metric. I can’t remember if they ranked on the raw number, or on the percentage of the high school’s graduating class that matriculated to one of those schools.</p>
<p>One problem with your proposed metric is looking at accepted and enrolled students, rather than just accepted. I’ve heard many stories from my high school senior daughter about classmates who were accepted to their dream school, but are matriculating to less-dreamy school because of finances.</p>
<p>tigerdad - you may think you are collecting info on the best high schools - what you are probably doing is collecting info on the wealthiest. There is such a strong correlation between family wealth and high school success/college matriculation. I see this extensively in my area. The students at the wealthiest public high schools can afford academic tutors, test prep, college counselors, etc. They have the most impressive college matriculation lists. The more average high schools in terms of wealth - students are more likely to stay in-state - or as Slithey Tove pointed out - they may rack up some impressive acceptances - but cannot necessarily afford to attend. You could save yourself a lot of time by just getting state statistics on median income per town and using that as your ranking system.</p>
<p>There are several different questions being considered at the same time here.</p>
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<li><p>Where did a specific student go - schools that are doing well admissions wise tend to publish a list at the time of graduation (usually students put these lists out and the school may not do it officially for privacy reasons although some schools do seem to distribute such a list at graduation). I bought a graduation book published by the student yearbook group which listed students and their final colleges from my local school last year. The school officially only put out information that listed how many are going to a specific school vs actual number admitted but not the identities of students.</p></li>
<li><p>Most schools using Naviance store historical and current information to show how many got in and their stats so you can compare yourself for guidance. These systems are only available to parents and not someone who wants to come off the street and do research. They may be willing to give you numbers of admissions vs matriculations if you show up at each school and request such information but not who went to which school.</p></li>
<li><p>Naviance is an annual membership software. So public schools wont always use it unless they are well off, i.e., PTO gave the money to counselor’s office to pay for the subscription or if the school district officially wants all schools to use it and is picking up the tab for the tool.</p></li>
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