College of General Studies at UPenn

<p>Leobag,</p>

<p>I see that you were also looking for the CGS deadlines for fall 06. Here they are:
BA, BFA, non-degree guest application deadline - August 1
Master of Liberal Arts, Master of Environmental Studies app deadline - August 1
Post-baccalaureate undergraduate studies, non-degree undergraduate studies app deadline - August 15
Master of Applied Positive Psychology, Master of Urban Spatial Analytics app deadline - March 1
Post-baccalaureate Pre-Health and Special Science - July 15
Post-bac Classical Studies - June 1</p>

<p>ask for more...</p>

<p>Isleboy,</p>

<p>you can do an internal transfer from CAS to CGS if you want. the rules used to be posted online, but I think they just changed the site. Anyways, meet with a CGS advisor or give them a call, and they can give you all the info you need.</p>

<p>a_posteriori, Thanks a lot for the info--and especially the open offer for questions and contacts. </p>

<p>I was interested in a degree from Wharton with a concentration in accounting... and possibly a minor in computer science. While that may seem ambitious for a transfer, if I was afforded an opportunity to attend the university, I would be most interested in an undergraduate degree for business.</p>

<p>Leobag,</p>

<p>If you’re looking for a degree in ‘business’, you’re best bet is to look for a ‘business’ school. The College at Penn is not a business school; it’s a ‘liberal arts’ school with the purpose of liberating “the mind from ignorance, superstition, and prejudice,” not to provide a student with a pre-professional degree as such. Just as you wouldn’t apply to Yale Law School to earn a degree in Culinary Arts, you shouldn’t apply to the College to earn a degree in Business. With this in mind, neither the College nor CGS would be able to give you exactly what you are looking for. </p>

<p>Wharton, on the other hand, would be a school that meets your interests. So applying to Wharton, not to the College or CGS, seems like the only choice available for you if you are interested in coming to Penn to study business. Otherwise, it may be in your best interest to look at other ‘business’ schools that can give you what you want, rather than looking for ‘liberal arts’ schools that focus more on making well-rounded individuals out of its students.</p>

<p>As you may already know from their website, Wharton is very difficult to transfer into. If you do plan on transferring, they recommend you transfer immediately after your freshman year, since they have “few spots for juniors.” After transferring to Penn, you must also remain a resident for a minimum of two years. As another alternative, you can earn a post-baccalaureate certificate from Wharton under their WPWP program, which you can complete on a part-time basis if attending full-time is not an option. Information about the program can be found here. <a href="http://executiveeducation.wharton.upenn.edu/wpwp/index.cfm%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://executiveeducation.wharton.upenn.edu/wpwp/index.cfm&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>Anyways, good luck on getting into the school of your choice.</p>

<p>Maybe I'm wrong, but the Biology Department (CAS) does limit the courses that CAS students can take to meet degree requirements?!</p>

<p>The question is whether CGS students are limit in the number of classes they can take in CAS.</p>

<p>I've taken a year off, due to family medical problems/financial situation, although I am still auditing CC classes to keep my mind working, so I still have time to decide between CAS and CGS.</p>

<p>I am worried about transfering classes from my CC to CGS though, but I do have all syllabi for my CC classes. </p>

<p>Hopefully, my Biology, Chemistry, Physics, and Math classes transfer. All the science classes (and their labs) are what UWashington requires to major in Biology so I think I'm fine, and Elements of Calculus, Calculus I & II, should (crossing my fingers) count, right?!. </p>

<p>I just don't want to retake some of the classes (I'm ok if its in the sciences, but math...yuck!).</p>

<p>:)</p>

<p>Hey Isleboy,</p>

<p>CGS students can take as many CAS courses as they want, and can take only CAS courses if that’s what they choose to do. It’s completely possible and permissible for a CGS student to take only day classes with other CAS students. Evening classes are an option (a really great option, especially for elective classes, at 1/4 of the price), but not mandatory. </p>

<p>Your department will obviously impose certain restrictions on which courses you can take towards the major. But is this startling news? We all know that if you want to major in Biology, then you will have to take certain biology courses (and non-biology courses as well) to complete your major. So I guess you could say that you are ‘restricted’ from counting courses irrelevant to biology towards your Biology major. You may also be restricted from a biology course if you have not yet completed the prerequisites for the course, the course is already full, the course is ‘permit only’ and you have not yet received a permit, or any other similar condition. You may also be restricted from a ‘majors only’ course if you are not yet a declared major. But if you were thinking that the Biology Department restricts CGS students from taking biology courses with everyone else for some reason, then that is simply false. </p>

<p>It doesn’t really matter whether you pick CGS or CAS, so don't spend too much of your time worrying about it. No one here cares one way or another. So whatever you decide, just apply to Penn and get in, study hard and do well, and you will be happy that you came here.</p>

<p>I was thinking more along the lines of CAS students being restricted from counting certain Bio classes taken in CGS or Summer School.</p>

<p>The reason I like CGS is that it seems like it is more flexiable than CAS. I got into CAS and defered for a year, but I'm beginning to prefer CGS...since I am also a few years older than the traditional college student.</p>

<p>I just wanted to be sure of the CGS and CAS policies, since the Bio departments navigation is a bit counterintuitive. I read something about a limit that CAS imposes on CAS kids but not CGS students....just can't find it.</p>

<p>:)</p>

<p>I found the information about the restriction for CAS. Not an issue with CGS.</p>

<p><a href="http://www.bio.upenn.edu/programs/undergraduate/manual/main/05.restrictions/index.html%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www.bio.upenn.edu/programs/undergraduate/manual/main/05.restrictions/index.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>I think the CAS to CGS internal transfer may be the way to go.</p>

<p>I believe CGS courses fully count for CAS requirements.</p>

<p>Does that mean that as long as I petition to have the CGS Bio course count (in CAS), that it won't be a problem?</p>

<p>Just want to make sure...:)</p>

<p>CAS and CGS courses are not distinguisible from each other on the transcript, so they are essentially interchangeable for all requirements. That's what I think but you'll have to check it with more official sources.</p>

<p>Kewl...thanks for the info.</p>

<p>I am applying to both Columbia's SGS and Upenn'ss CGS for the Spring 2007 semester and wanted to know if admitted CGS folks could give guidance/info since you are attending CGS.</p>

<p>I am a community college transfer that has taken time off to support my family and care for a mentally ill brother, fitting the non-traditional student profile. As my grades are not close to 3.0, I want to focus shine w/ my personal statement as much as possible.</p>

<p>Can you share your thoughts/experiences during the application process? What do you think made your essay successful? What do you think the school is looking for in an ideal candidate? </p>

<p>Any admission tips for would be greatly appreciated!</p>

<p>Thank you so much for your time.</p>

<p>Cheers,</p>

<p>Andrew</p>

<p>a_huynh:</p>

<p>You might want to start a new CGS thread and ask the question again...seems like it would get a better response. </p>

<p>:)</p>

<p>PS--I'm not sure, but CGS usually recommends, strongly, that an applicant have at least a 3.0. I'd suggest taking a couple more classes to bring up your gpa.</p>

<p>thanks isleboy for the tip. I am now taking courses at cc and will be over the 3.0 mark after this quarter. I plan on raising my gpa next quarter and applying for fall 07.</p>