<p>Interesting. D, who is interested in architechture, landscape arch., industrial design, and engineering, enters top LAC in Sept. I never though of the two kids as pursuing the same goal - - even from a diff vantage points. Most of these careers require grad sch and advanced math/sci, which is D's strength and which will no doubt be a struggle for S, who is already taking less rigorous curric than his sister did - - but still something to think about, especially if S's grades/scores improve.</p>
<p>Have you looked into the SUNY schools? SUNY Purchase has its own School of the Arts, with an Arts & Design major, and Visual arts minor. </p>
<p>Also SUNY Binghamton (doesn't have a school of the arts but has Art & Art History majors) is known as the Ivy of the state schools.</p>
<p>The University of Oregon has a five year undergraduate program in Landscape Architecture. Every year they take a few talented freshman directly into the program based on their high-school art portfolio. U of O has a very good reputation in Landscape Architecture and a good record of placing their graduates. A friend's very talented nephew entered that program from a local public high school that is nothing special academically and is thriving. He has already completed his first-temporary-project for pay. I imagine if your son was interested enough in something he could learn the Math he needed to pursue it. Another firend of ours has a son who is also not a stellar student, but a very talented artist and super creative and imaginative, he is headed to a major in product design either starting out with a BFA either at the U of O or directly into a design program at Arizona State. In the west every state has a 1% for the arts ordinance. 1% of the budget of every public building must be spent on art. Lots of West Coast artists make a decent middle class living pursuing these opportunities.</p>