Thanks… I knew there had to be some reason that it kept coming up.
Sorry for the pity party. I must sound like such a little whiner.
I am no quitter. I am just frustrated.
But, where is the money to help a low income kid rise up and get out of this hole called NYC. Yeah, it’s fantasy land if you’re rich. But most of us aren’t.
And, then the reality of nyc. All that damned tax money that goes to public ed is wasted on kids who are illegal aliens or have parents who are illegal aliens. You all have no idea how many there are here. Just sucking up tax dollars.
And … cuz they ain’t here legally they work for slave wages and push the wages for regular working folk down to levels that are below poverty. What are you supposed to do? Other than get the heck out.
Just not fair.
SMDH.
I have to get out of here.
- You may find a nice match here at St. Joseph’s. It is known for giving some funding for low-income students. And it’s a nice, solid school – https://www.sjcny.edu/
Or look at The Sage colleges, for low income students the total cost is about $11K per year – https://www.sage.edu/
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are you female? Several private colleges cut their regular cost of about $65K per year to something more affordable for low-income students. You may want to look into some women’s schools. If you want to start as a freshman, for low-income students, Hollins University will cost about $15K per year; Simmons about $20K per year. If you want to start at BMCC or LaGuardia community college and transfer into a women’s college, look at Mt. Holyoke for transfer $11.5K per year) or Smith ($9K per year).
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You may also want to look at Union College for transfer. It welcomes transfers and the costs for low-income students is about $9K per year.
To find out for ANY college, the approximate cost for low-income student, use this website. https://nces.ed.gov/collegenavigator/
Type in the name of your college, and hit the tap called NET PRICE. You can see the approximate cost of that school for you.
A good part of the answer is the Excelsior Scholarship.
If your family income is under I think it’s $110,000, NY. Will pretty much pay your CUNY or SUNY tuition. If you can swing $13,000 in room and board, you can go to a pretty wide range of schools in this huge state. If not, you can still go locally and not have to worry about tuition.
There are some requirements, and of course you have to apply to schools to which you’ll be accepted.
I’m on my IPad or I would give you the link…google it and start looking at SUNY and CUNY
@bjkmom several posters (including me) have already suggested this, but OP seems to be resistant and wants to go out of state. Also, he/she does not seem to have the money even for room and board. Hopefully he/she can find a full ride scholarship elsewhere.
I think that sometime kids from downstate…my own Long Island kids and those I teach included…sometimes foerget just how big NY is. So, for example, either SUNY Buffalo or Buffalo State, or Oswego or Plattsburgh or so many other SUNY campuses are a world away from out metro N.Y.C. existence…and they’re doable.
There are community colleges upstate that are gorgeous, with apartment-like dorms.
There ARE affordable options.
And, like my own kids, the OP needs to realize that there are also tons of unaffordable options…and that all the wishes in the world won’t change that.
“The way out” May not be college. It may be the doors that your CUNY degree can open for you.
The previous thread pointed out those things as well.
@therealtyquan those immigrant kids are also not resistant to finding the most affordable means of getting their education. You may feel the money is wasted because you don’t feel enough of it is being used on you, but Infor one disagree. Just like I disagree with everyone in central NY who complains that their tax money is all being wasted when it goes to NYC areas instead of staying here. You have options, you just don’t like them. That’s life. It isn’t always fair.
@therealtyquan : what is your EFC?
I do not know what our EFC is but it will be low.
@mom2twogirls You did not read what I wrote and instead decided to lob your opinion into the fray.
The kids I mentioned are not seeking college. They are taking a free k-12 education from the taxpayers of NY. Most have zero interest in college.
As long as this has veered off course. Why we give freebies to people here illegally when there is not enough for the people here legally is beyond me? Why not take care of American kids first. Just my opinion.
I still have to find a good situation. Not my problem as they say. But you have no idea the amount of resources wasted on things like esl that could used for American kids.
I’m afraid that that discussion is veering into the political, and won’t do anything to help you.
Also, keep in mind that it’s possible to read and u derstand your point, but still disagree with it.
Baruch Public Affairs is an excellent school at low cost.
If you must get out of nyc, SUNY has many campuses in rural low cost areas.
But with your attitude, public service may not be a great fit.
Life is difficult, but the blame game leads to a very bad outcome historically.
@blevine my attitude?
SMDH
You don’t know me. Don’t judge me.
Thanks to all for the good advice. Getting out of NY is a priority. I will get my board scores up and find a scholarship.
Oh and the excelsior. That’s a joke. Free tuition? BFF. Tuition is like $6500 out of $25000.
From the SUNY Buffalo website:
Projected Cost of Attendance — Undergraduate (2016-2017)*
Tuition (New York State residents): $6,770
Tuition (out-of-state residents): $23,270
Fees: $3,000
Room and board (average): $12,292
Total (New York State residents): $22,062
Total (out-of-state residents): $38,562
So, as we’ve all been saying, it doesn’t cover room and board. The tuition will be covered. And if you choose CUNY, the room and board aren’t an issue.
Still, it’s $6,770 a year that my kids aren’t being offered. And $6,770 a year that kids weren’t offered 5 years ago.
You’ve shot down pretty much any suggestion that has been offered. I hope you find a way to get what you want. What most of us see as your best option is to go to a CUNY school, get an education, and use that degree to enable you to find a job out of the metro NYC area.
Good luck
Actually, no, I have shot down all suggestions about CUNY & SUNY.
Other people advised me to look at schools in rural areas that were private and well funded.
Sorry, but I want out of NY. It’s headed downward anyway. It’s wonderful if you’re rich. I am not.
How do others do it? Often, they commute. Since their tuition is covered, they need to get into a SUNY near their home. If they want to live on campus, they work and save their money (you can earn about $3,000 over the summer after junior year, another $3,000 working during the year, and another $3,000 over the summer senior year). You are entitled to $5,500 in federal loans. That covers it. OR… they get into the Honors program or Honors college and score a merit scholarship on top of the Excelsior.
Most students who leave the city do so with scholarships. Scholarships come from the colleges themselves and are highly dependent on test scores. So, they study and take the SAT and ACT until their scores are high enough to qualify them for a scholarship.
Not sure why you’re speaking like an angry trostkyist. You realize that it’s other people’s taxes paying for that free tuition so you can go to college? That leaves $13,000 to find. Sure, it’s a lot of money, but ask kids in New Hampshire or Pennsylvania how they’d feel about paying $13,000 for college and you’ll realize how exceptional that is.
To recap:
You want to get out of the city. That’s your first goal.
And your second goal is to go to the countryside where there are trees, animals, lots of green space.
The first two goals are very reasonable, achievable objectives. Improve your scores, apply to various colleges suggested on the thread, and you have good odds of getting into a few. It’d be pretty cool to have an embarassment of riches, right?
Finally, your top objective is to go toward the South. That one is trickier and will require more work and more luck.
To get out of the city, using the Excelsior:
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http://www.csistudenthousing.com/student-apartments/ny/staten-island/dolphin-cove
(there’s extra financial aid for students who live there)
https://www.csi.cuny.edu/academics-and-research/specialized-programs/honors-programs/verrazano-school
https://www.csi.cuny.edu/academics-and-research/specialized-programs/opportunity-diversity-programs
Yes it’s not ideal but it’s out of the city.
To get out of the city and into the countryside:
-http://www.visitithaca.com/
https://www.dryden-ny.org/about-us/
https://www.tc3.edu/student/housing.asp
HEOP in the countryside
-(you’d need 1200+ on the SAT)
http://www.visitithaca.com/
https://www.ithaca.edu/
-(you’d need 1100 on the SAT)
http://fingerlakesgateway.com/
http://www2.hws.edu/*
-http://www.discoveralleganycounty.com/
http://www.sbu.edu/
*= best financial aid but harder to get into than the others. Both are excellent for political science.
It’ll be trickier to move South. To get to the South, you’ll need to raise your test scores as affordability will be correlated with scores. I see you’re willing to work hard for that objective. Register for the June SAT and ACT tests. THen for August and September. (Use your fee waivers). Work on Khan Academy every day. Be relentless in that pursuit.
Some colleges in the South that you could consider
-https://www.lmunet.edu/
https://www.kentuckytourism.com/cumberland-gap-national-historical-park/
-http://www.sewanee.edu/
https://www.tnvacation.com/middle-tennessee/sewanee
Well @MYOS1634 - I think you have some pretty good points.
So, I am signed up for June SAT and will be spending time each Sunday sitting in the library doing practice exams and I will get a more acceptable score. I think I can crack 1300 with some diligence.
Still want out of NY and the northeast.
Everything I read suggests that people are leaving NY NJ and CT for the sunbelt. Again, NY is great if you’re rich. But who can afford the rent here on a starting salary. I don’t want to be working poor when I grow up.
You’re right, states experiencing population growth include North Carolina, South Carolina, Georgia, Florida, …
Congratulations on signing up for the June SAT.
Sign up for the “question a day” in order to practice every day. Look at the “test” forum on this website and look for the “xiggi and silverturtle method”. It really works well.
If you want to leave NY it is important to note that one of the little known conditions of the Excelsior Scholarship is that the student is expected to remain in NY State for 5 years after graduation! If the student leaves to work elsewhere, it is treated as a loan and they are expected to repay it! The idea is to work in NY and give back to the economy. If you are serious about leaving and going south, and you do not end up finding sufficient scholarships, perhaps a good idea is to take a gap year or two and reestablish residency in the state of your choice while working to save money. If you establish residency you can apply in a year or two as an instate student there.
@therealtyquan Congrats on signing up for the SAT in June! You can sign up free practice at the Khan academy. I think you can log in or link with the collegeboard account and it will import your previous scores and give you extra practice on things you missed. I can’t post links but you can google " Khan academy sat practice "