Colleges for Conservatives/Libertarians?

<p>^ I agree. Unfounded fears are a terrible burden.</p>

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<p>…if only they were unfounded. Unfortunately, reality has shown otherwise.</p>

<p>“The more elite the college, the more liberal the professors.”</p>

<p>Hah–wow- liberal colleges discriminating against conservative professors–not surprised.</p>

<p>I wasn’t punished academically because my political beliefs didn’t match up with those of my graders.</p>

<p>Let’s play a game … match the conservative with their alma mater:</p>

<p>William F. Buckley, George W. Bush, Dick Cheney, Calvin Coolidge, Newt Gingrich, E. Howard Hunt, G. Gordon Liddy, Rush Limbaugh, Oliver North, Sarah Palin, Ronald Reagan, George Will</p>

<p>Amherst, Brown, Emory, Eureka, Fordham, Stanford, State University, State University, State University, State University, State University, Wesleyan, Yale, Yale</p>

<p>Why aren’t any of these on that list of “conservative friendly” places? Good enough for William F. Buckley and Barry Goldwater and Rush Limbaugh … but not good enough for today’s youth?</p>

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<p>Good. I’m sure that every single college student in this country will have an identical experience during their four years at school, then. </p>

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<p>You’d be surprised. I know several people who have had to change their papers and assignments in order to suit their professor’s political leanings. And, at places such as UNC, a conscious effort is made by some liberal students to drive conservative thought as a whole off of the campus.</p>

<p>OP - although I am sure the responses on this thread wer of little to no help, thanks for trying to identify and publish this information. Some of us do appreciate it</p>

<p>"Maybe they are that way because they are in a profession that is not about chasing a dollar, helping others and the greater good, have more knowledge than the general public.</p>

<p>There is a reason that all the monuments in DC are for liberal Presidents. “Liber” (latin for book) is the root for Liberal, library, and liberty. Turn off Fox News and read for a change. It might help you make more sense of the world. You are obviously very confused about the reality. Good luck.
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<p>Wow- wrong on so many levels- but the Kool Ade must taste great on your planet.</p>

<p>I think the reality is that at most colleges and universities, true examples of liberal profs penalizing conservative students for their views will be extremely rare. A few anecdotal examples do not convince me otherwise. And if it happens, the students should complain about it. I think there might be a few schools where both the faculty and the students are so liberal that conservative students would be made to feel uncomfortable. I’m not sure what those schools are, though. I don’t think they are the Ivies, for example. There are certainly some other schools on the conservative end of that spectrum, where a liberal student would feel uncomfortable.</p>

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Calvin Coolidge ~1894
Ronald Reagan ~1933
E. Howard Hunt 1940
William F. Buckley ~1949
G. Gordon Liddy 1952
Dick Cheney ~1963 (flunked out of Yale)
George Will ~1963
Newt Gingrich 1965
Oliver North 1967
George W. Bush 1968
Rush Limbaugh N/A (flunked out after one year)
Sarah Palin 80s </p>

<p>Aside from Palin (Idaho, hardly a hotbed of liberals), all of the people you listed graduated more than 40 years ago. How in the world are their experiences supposed to be representative of those today? Good grief, half of those people most likely didn’t have more than a handful of female or black students in their graduating class. </p>

<p>That’s one reason I take accounts like Greybeard’s with a grain of salt. To be blunt, your experiences are antiquated.</p>

<p>If you’re really interested in this, find out if the college in question has a Republican or conservative club, or whether it has a political union with a conservative wing. E-mail the leader of that group and find out how many students are in it, and what they think about the environment.</p>

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You’d be surprised. FIRE, which measures free speech on campuses, evaluated the Ivies as follows:</p>

<p>Red: Brown, Columbia, Cornell, Harvard, Princeton (very restrictive)
Yellow: Yale (moderately restrictive)
Green: Penn (open)</p>

<p>That said, I strongly disagree with FIRE’s stance on certain events. Campuses should be all-inclusive and welcoming, and completely free speech should not be enforced at the expense of that. For example, I recently wrote rather unfavorably about the Reed satirical column. </p>

<p>I immediately think of MEALAC at Columbia as an example, which has been notorious for charges leveled against free speech there. </p>

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<p>Personally, I think those charges are a bunch of nonsense. At the same time, though, a politicized atmosphere exists at Columbia, and it is arguably unwise to blithely ignore it if you are considering the school.</p>

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Is owning slaves part of the definition?</p>

<p>^^^
Some perspective here:</p>

<p>This would be why the republicans (President Lincoln whig turned republican) fought a war to abolish slavery less than 100 years after the country was founded. Not everything happens instantaneously. In the realm of history, 100 years is a millisecond. For someone who studies history past the high school or intro college level, and or reads books about the founding fathers, abolishing slavery was on the agenda, it just wasn’t a goal they knew could be accomplished simultaneously with winning a revolution.</p>

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<p>Alicia Sacramone can attest to this. She transferred out of Brown because it was “too liberal” for her.</p>

<p>Freeing slaves at your death was liberal for its day.</p>

<p>The FIRE list is interesting, but it doesn’t really have a liberal/conservative focus. They condemn any speech code that limits free speech in any way. I sympathize with their views, but I think it’s a little misleading to say that places like Harvard and Princeton are “very restrictive” when it comes to free speech (and “very restrictive” is not the term FIRE uses, anyway). I think there’s a kind of myth among conservatives that conservative students are constantly being shouted down, penalized, and harassed for their views at liberal universities–I think this idea is extremely exaggerated.</p>

<p>I’ve actually read portions of the guide in question, and it has its own obvious biases. Women’s colleges, Black Studies, acknowledgment of the validity of any religion other than Christianity and any sexuality other than heterosexuality…all equal “bad.” The idea that any author outside the so-called Western Canon is worth studying=bad. And so forth.</p>

<p>Frankly, my S and my niece (who is on the conservative side)–read it out loud during a car trip and ended up finding it literally laughable. They could predict the ratings with complete accuracy.</p>

<p>I should add that I am personally opposed to “speech codes” in general, and also to “hate crime” legislation. Despite the fact that most “conservatives” would unhesitatingly label me a “liberal,” I have a wide libertarian streak.</p>

<p>George Mason is another university that is welcoming to conservatives.</p>

<p>Conservatives students shouldn’t worry about liberal professors and fellow students. You can have a lot of fun messing with them. Just do your research and rip holes in their assumptions. It is a fun way to learn more. Besides, some liberals are really nice, once you get to know them. They can be your dearest, life-long friends.</p>

<p>W. Bush - Yale
W.F. Buck - Yale
I think Hunt went to Brown
Limbaugh did not go to college (or the NFL)
Reagan went to Eureka
Palin went to 5 different schools
Liddy went to Fordham (so did Alan Alda)
North went to Navy
George Will got his Ph.D at Princeton</p>