Colleges That Are Highly Respected (but not Highly Selective)

[jack63]

<p>Purdue - West Lafayette…I know it has been mentioned before. It is Especially true of their engineering and business programs. High acceptance rate 85%ish, but a very high peer assessment rate which is usually comparable to schools like tufts, USC, Brandeis.</p>

<p>From what I know of Purdue their top engineering programs will often send students to grad school at places like MIT, Stanford, Illinois, and Michigan on a regular basis.</p>

<p>Many Corporations from the coasts regularly come to Purdue and hire from their business and engineering programs.</p>

<p>With all this being said, often the academics in many of their top programs are exceedingly tough. Junior and Senior level engineering courses often have a straight C average and some of the freshmen and sophomore physics and math course will literally flunk 40% of the class.</p>

<p>I’ll also say that West Lafayette is not a terribly exciting place to live and Lafayette is not a very nice place to live at all.</p>

[Pizzagirl]

<p>I am amazed that Purdue doesn’t get a lot more mentions on CC. I think most midwesterners would consider it a highly reputable school, esp with respect to engineering.</p>

[guidedog]

<p>I second American (internationally known), and Smith and Mt. Holyoke. They’ve taken the really- solid-but-not-highest-tier students I’ve worked with.</p>

[tango91]

<p>What about Trinity College, Ct. would you cosider it part of this list?</p>

[PaperChaserPop]

<p>There will always be a correlation between public respect and student selectivity. It may be weak, but it is still there. </p>

<p>Here is a nonexclusive list of schools which, at the moment, seem to have a weaker correlation than some of their peers with similar “respect”.</p>

<p>Not in particular order:</p>

<p>University of Rochester, Purdue University - West Lafayette, Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Pennsylvania State University - University Park, California Polytechnic State University - San Luis Obispo, University of Wisconsin - Madison, University of Michigan -Ann Arbor, University of Illinois - Urbana-Champaign, University of Maryland - College Park, University of California - Davis.</p>

<p>These schools all have good international reputation, and all of them except Cal Poly have over 40% acceptance rate. Of course, for the State U’s, it would be harder for OOS.</p>

[jack63]

<p>I will say that for some of these top public, the acceptance rate is a misleading guide to the actual selectivity. For example the University of Michigan has an acceptance rate of around 50% which is very high, but it has something like more than 90% of its accepted students in the top 10% of the high school class. This number is comparable to lower ivies. It is also interesting to note that many of the students at Michigan who are not in the top 10% are athletes. Many publics place a huge emphasis on class rank, in part, to give students from around the state a more equal chance of getting in.</p>

<p>There are also other weird things about Michigan’s admissions. They defer loads of students who apply early…many students don’t get a “yes” or “no” if they apply early. Because of all this, many students who want to go to Michigan, just don’t apply and perhaps go early decision at some other school which may overlook a class rank that is 15% if the student has top test scores. </p>

<p>If you read the Michigan boards, you’ll read about students rejected from Michigan and accepted into Ivies or Stanford.</p>

[Keilexandra]

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@jack63

They defer loads of students who apply early…many students don’t get a “yes” or “no” if they apply early. Because of all this, many students who want to go to Michigan, just don’t apply and perhaps go early decision at some other school which may overlook a class rank that is 15% if the student has top test scores.

Your theory makes no sense because Michigan’s early admissions program is not only non-binding but considered rolling for purposes of SCEA. It’s perfectly ethical to apply ED to an Ivy and early to Michigan.</p>

[prodigalson]

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@jack63

If you read the Michigan boards, you’ll read about students rejected from Michigan and accepted into Ivies or Stanford.

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<p>Unlike U Michigan, the Ivies or Stanford have HOLISTIC admissions policies and procedures. Also, they value (esp. racial/ethnic and cultural) diversity more than U Michigan does or, for that matter, can under Michigan law.</p>

[Scarlett.B]

<p>In Georgia</p>

<p>Agnes Scott College</p>

<p>Oxford College of Emory University</p>

<p>Mercer University</p>

[hawkette]

<p>On its own, Top 10% is almost meaningless as an indicator of high student quality. 7 of the top 12 colleges in the USA for Top 10% students are UCs. All of them finished ahead of Harvard and even further ahead of Stanford. LOL.</p>

<p>100% , UC SAN DIEGO
99% , U Penn
98% , UC BERKELEY
98% , UC DAVIS
97% , Princeton
97% , Yale
97% , Caltech
97% , MIT
97% , UCLA
96% , Wash U
96% , UC S BARBARA
96% , UC IRVINE
96% , UC S CRUZ</p>

<p>95% , Harvard</p>

<p>92% , Stanford</p>

[pierre0913]

<p>Clemson University</p>

[jack63]

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Your theory makes no sense because Michigan’s early admissions program is not only non-binding but considered rolling for purposes of SCEA. It’s perfectly ethical to apply ED to an Ivy and early to Michigan.

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<p>That could be, I’ve actually been wrong before ;)…occasionally. I did look at the Ask the Dean topics about SCEA. The link on the subject is below:</p>

<p>[Single-Choice</a> Early Action - Ask The Dean](<a href=“http://www.collegeconfidential.com/dean/index.php/archives/000219.htm]Single-Choice”>http://www.collegeconfidential.com/dean/index.php/archives/000219.htm)</p>

<p>Quoting the dean she says</p>

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Harvard, Yale and other colleges that have “single choice early action” programs do not allow candidates to apply to other schools during the early-action period only. However, once they receive EA (Early Action) decisions (mid-December), then applicants are free to apply elsewhere, if they so choose.

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<p>So what am I missing. It sure looks like it is unethical to me, but I could be wrong. Let me know…lol.</p>

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On its own, Top 10% is almost meaningless as an indicator of high student quality.

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<p>Actually agree hawkette. Michigan students(like me) and alums like to brag about this 10% class rank number and they shouldn’t. With that being said, Michigan and other publics do make it hard to get it into their undergrad program by using the 10% class rank cutoff. They are selective in their own and sadly somewhat arbitrary way. Like I said earlier though, one of the reasons these public schools use this 10% cutoff is to give students accross the state a more equal chance of being admitted. The mission of public schools is different from privates in that publics, like Michigan, are their to serve thier state.</p>

[jack63]

<p>Actually…Sally…Dean…since you started the thread, feel free to jump in. Is applying ED at one school and then applying in Michigan’s rolling admission at the same time unethical? I’m very curious now.</p>

[Keilexandra]

<p>There are certain, spelled-out exceptions to SCEA rules.</p>

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@Yale

1. You may apply to a public institution in your home state, even if you will receive an admissions decision prior to January 1. (That decision must be non-binding, meaning that you have until May 1 to respond.)</p>

<ol>
<li><p>You may apply to a public university’s “rolling” admission program if the program is non-binding.</p></li>
<li><p>You may apply to a college with an early deadline for scholarship awards, but only if the notification of admission occurs after January 1.</p></li>
<li><p>Finally, you may apply to another college’s “Round 2 Early Decision” program, but only if notification is after January 1. If you are admitted through another college’s “Round 2 Early Decision” program, you must withdraw your application from Yale.

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</ol>

<p><a href=“http://www.yale.edu/admit/freshmen/application/eafaq.html[/url]”>http://www.yale.edu/admit/freshmen/application/eafaq.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

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@Stanford

Applicants must agree not to apply Early Decision, Early Action or Early Notification elsewhere. Exceptions exist, however, and as a result, Restrictive Early Action applicants may apply to:</p>

<p>Any institution, public or private, under a non-binding Rolling Admission option.
Public institutions in a student’s home state under a non-binding Early Action program.
Foreign colleges/universities on any application schedule.
Institutions whose early application deadlines are a requirement for consideration for special academic programs or scholarships only if the notification of admission occurs after January 1.
Institutions under an Interim Decision program only if the notification of admission occurs after January 1.

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<p>Michigan’s early admissions program has traditionally been considered “rolling,” and both Y and S allow for early application to any in-state public U regardless. I believe a very few colleges restrict EA applications for ED applicants, but those are an extreme minority. Most ED schools allow you only one ED but an unlimited number of EA/rolling/Interim/whatever–you just can’t accept those offers if you are admitted ED.</p>

[hawkette]

<p>I concur about the different missions of publics and privates and think that that is a major reason why they might best be ranked separately. The metrics being applied could then be adapted for each universe of schools.</p>

[Sikorsky]

<p>Brigham Young.</p>

[ca87]

<p>McGill .</p>

[Woeyir]

<p>University of Chicago</p>

<p>O wait…</p>

[alam1]

<p>Actually Mcgill is really selective for certain science programs… In Canada, its broken down by programs… it is like infinately harder to get into Mcgill Life Sciences than it is to get into its Arts programs… so thats something to think about… but Mcgill does accept a lot of Americans so it is easier for Americans I believe.</p>

[MNTwins]

<p>University of minnesota, nough said.</p>