<p>The college that sucks for you may be a great college for someone else, and vice-versa.</p>
<p>A minimal set of criteria for bachelor’s degree granting colleges that suck for you would be:</p>
<ul>
<li>College is too expensive.</li>
<li>College does not have your major or other academic offerings you want to study.</li>
<li>College (in the US) does not have regional accreditation.</li>
<li>If your major customarily has major-specific accreditation, college’s degree program in it neither has nor is in the process of getting such accreditation.</li>
</ul>
<p>for national-louis university: there seems to be a lot of people over the normal college age and they don’t provide dorms. I guess it’s more a grad school too. It’s in a nice area though and it appears that a lot of people get some aid. Looks like it’s a teacher school too.</p>
<p>Oh, wait, here it is. Chicago came in #40 among major U.S. cities in 2012. And its murder rate so far in 2013 is down by more than 30% from the 2012 rate, potentially on track to reach its lowest level since the early 1960s.</p>
<p>Somehow the media sensationalism and political spin seems to have missed all that.</p>
<p>Singapore 0.4
Tokyo 0.5
Hong Kong 0.6
Berlin 1.0
Sydney 1.0
London 1.4
Toronto 1.7
Amsterdam 1.8
Paris 4.4
New York 6.0
Los Angeles 7.5
Mexico City 8.0
Moscow 9.6
Sao Paulo 15.6
Chicago 19.4</p>
<p>It’s really unseemly for someone from Maryland to be criticizing Chicago’s murder rate when Baltimore’s rate is much worse, nearly twice Chicago’s rate. It would be much more accurate to describe Baltimore as “where people go to die,” except the same could be said about Detroit, Flint, New Orleans, St. Louis, etc.</p>
<p>I’ve just been curious to see what people think I guess. I know it’s a little controversial and I’ll be honest I had pretty bad delivery but I’m sure someone is worried about attending a college they won’t enjoy.</p>
<p>Idk if the murder rate of a city is a good indicator of a bad college experience though unless there is no distinction between the city and the campus.</p>
<p>I think it’s almost completely irrelevant unless violent crime is so prevalent in the immediate area of the campus that students’ lives and health are at high risk. That is not the case for Johns Hopkins in Baltimore, Tulane in New Orleans, WUSTL in. St. Louis, or Case Western in Cleveland, despite the high murder rates in those cities. Nor is it true for the University of Chicago.</p>
<p>I’m not even sure “teenbodybuilder” meant it as a criticism of the University of Chicago, so much as it was a failed attempt at a clever joke, playing on the “where fun goes to die” idea. But it left such a grossly inaccurate impression of Chicago’s murder rate that I couldn’t let it pass, especially since there are people out there intentionally smearing Chicago these days by spreading misinformation, falsely suggesting it has an inordinately high murder rate when in fact a great many major American cities have much higher rates. I’m not suggesting “teenbodybuilder” is part of that malicious crowd. More likely he simply fell victim to some of their propaganda, and repeated it.</p>
<p>Yeah I was just joking about Chicago. Even if the media blows the murder rate out of proportion, the city is still on the decline. 3% higher unemployment rate than the national average, double the national foreclosure rate, high dropout rate, highest gas prices in the nation, lagging home prices, lost an Olympic bid… Chicago is no longer innovating; it is only declining.</p>
<p>I digress. I’m sure UChicago is good school.</p>
<p>I’m sure this will come as a shock but there have actually been students who haven’t enjoyed (gasp!) Ivy’s or other “elite” schools. Every college has students who don’t enjoy the place once they get there, even if the school was their “dream” school. High school students usually have a lot of unrealistic views of college life and are sometimes unhappy once they have spent time on campus. There are posts on cc every autumn from miserable freshmen. By that measure, every school in the USNWR top 10 “sucks”.</p>
<p>I have a feeling NBC twisted those stats somehow to get shock value. Does anyone here actually believe that Chicago is less safe than poverty stricken cities such as Sao Paulo, or Mexico City, which is in the middle of a full war between the police (those that are not corrupt) and the drug cartels.<br>
At best this data probably only represents “officially reported” homicides, which might make sense in explaining why places like Mexico City would appear to be safer.</p>
<p>Also surprised that St. Louis was so high on the other list, I though it was a pretty safe city.</p>
<p>No surprise that many of the schools on these lists are non-flagship state universities with low admission standards. The better students in those states are likely at the flagship state universities. BYU Idaho is probably analogous, substituting the LDS church for a state in the analogy (BYU Provo being the LDS church flagship).</p>