<p>Add Northwestern, Yale(reach), and Caltech(reach).</p>
<p>It's a matter of some subtlety. Bucknell and Lehigh each offer engineering degrees, so not everybody (about 20%) will be pursuing law, medicine or creative writing as potential careers. And, it is said, that engineering students tend to be more conservative socially and politically, although even that is open to conjecture. Colgate is closer to Wesleyan and Oberlin in overall mission, but, even it lacks some of the political fervor of the latter two.</p>
<p>A safety that would likely give you a full merit scholarship would be Bard. They are trying to attract science majors and have hired excellent Profs. No TAs to deal with.</p>
<p>Yea, visited and Bard and really liked it. But, I didn't really know the quality of their science department, so I have kind of forgotten them.</p>
<p>Are they getting better?</p>
<p>I would consider adding vassar (match) and a place like Colby, Hamilton, or Bates(safe matches/ safeties).</p>
<p>For info on Bard PM "wmgan" who posts on the Bard board. He's a physics major there.</p>
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<blockquote> <blockquote> <p>I've read a little about the differences...but can you explain them a little more clearly to me?<<<</p> </blockquote> </blockquote>
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<p>small liberal arts schools in particular seem to have a dominant culture that defines the social scene. that's not to say that everyone there fits into any single mold, but simply that certain types seem to gravitate to certain environments. </p>
<p>my sense is that schools like wesleyan and oberlin tend to attract kids who tend toward being creative, politically active, progressive, a bit edgy maybe. schools like lehigh and colgate seem a bit more preppy, middle-of-the-road, well-rounded types. </p>
<p>all of these schools are really excellent in terms of academic offerings, so you might want to look into the social scene to figure out where you'd feel most comfortable.</p>
<p>I have very reliable info that upper-level mathematics at Oberlin is highly challenging, with very good teachers. From a former top HS math student with top stats.</p>
<p>If you fit socially you should keep it on, IMO. LIke if you really cared about the environmental club and model UN.</p>
<p>But I'm not sure how many applicants apply to Wesleyan and Oberlin on the one hand and Colgate and Bucknell on the other. LIke NJMOM202's been saying.</p>
<p>After talking to some people, and reading a little, I'm looking more strongly at Lehigh.</p>
<p>add harvey mudd</p>
<p>Colgate is pretty strong for physics. RPI & URochester are two more less selective, but good schools to look at for math/science.</p>
<p>Ok....this is what I have so far applying wise.</p>
<p>Definites:[ul]
[<em>]Brown (reach)
[</em>]Lehigh (match)
[li]Colgate (high match)[/ul] </p>[/li]
<p>Probables:[ul]
[<em>]Bucknell (match)
[</em>]Carleton (reach)
[<em>]Swarthmore (reach)
[</em>]Carnegie Mellon (high match)
[<em>]Wesleyan (reach)
[</em>]Cornell (reach - unsure about size)
[<em>]Johns Hopkins (high match - reach)
[</em>]Bard (matchish - they have a full scholarship application for intended science majors)[/ul]</p>
<p>Not Sure Yet:[ul]
[<em>]Oberlin (high match - reach)
[</em>]Case Western (safety - match)
[<em>]Northwestern (safety - match)
[</em>]URochester (match)[/ul]</p>
<p>This is what I have for now...Please, more suggestions.</p>
<p>BTW, I got a 30 on my ACT. I'm going to take again in September/October and try to bring it to a 32-34.</p>
<p>I think Colgate, Johns Hopkins & Northwestern would be harder to get into than Oberlin.</p>
<p>I think Vassar is a big miss. Also, I think you would love Dartmouth. Its much more like Brown than people think.</p>
<p>Northwestern (safety - match)</p>
<p>ru kidding?</p>
<p>Northwestern is same level as Cornell......</p>
<p>bball is right.</p>
<p>I was thinking of Northeastern...my mistake.</p>
<p>Northwestern would of course be a reach.</p>
<p>You need some veritable safeties. How are the state schools by you?</p>