<p>Right now I'm pretty sure I want to major in math and either double major or minor in French (I know, odd combination). I definitely want a school with a good study abroad program. I live in the Detroit area and I'd like to stay within the midwest region. So far I know I'm applying to Northwestern, U of Michigan, and Kalamazoo, but I'd like to look at some more schools, too.</p>
<p>Any ideas??</p>
<p>Carleton College
Grinnell College
Indiana University-Bloomington
Kalamazoo Collefe
Kenyon College
Macalester College
Northwestern University
Oberlin College
University of Chicago
University of Illinois-Urbana Champaign
University of Michigan-Ann Arbor
University of Notre Dame
University of Wisconsin</p>
<p>Case Western Reserve</p>
<p>What can your family afford?</p>
<p>I am not sure about Western Michigan study abroad program but heard great things about Kalamazoo College. I would also suggest to look at Grinnell College, University of Iowa, University of Illinois- UC, and Ohio State University. All recognized nationally and great study abroad programs.</p>
<p>Thank you everyone!</p>
<p>Honestly, I can probably afford about 10K a year without my parents having to dip into their retirement fund. Needless to say, I’ll be applying for a lot of scholarships this next year.</p>
<p>“I would also suggest to look at Grinnell College, University of Iowa, University of Illinois- UC, and Ohio State University. All recognized nationally and great study abroad programs.”</p>
<p>Why would a student from Michigan want to go to another public school in the midwest when they have Michigan and/or MSU for instate tuition? Unless there is substantial scholarship money to be had, it makes no sense whatsoever. For example in Iowa, Grinnell College would be a good choice. The University of Iowa, not so much.</p>
<p>Michigan has great study abroad options as well as internships. Here is a good site to explore:</p>
<p>[Global</a> Michigan | Global Engagement and International Opportunities at the University of Michigan](<a href=“http://globalportal.umich.edu/]Global”>http://globalportal.umich.edu/)</p>
<p>Northwestern, Chicago, University of Indiana, UIUC, Notre Dame and Wisconsin are great public and private universities to name a few.</p>
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Oh wow, I am a resident of Michigan and attend Iowa. Also half of the University of Iowa most recent freshmen class were out of state students. It’s a great school. I personally wouldn’t want to attend the University of Michigan or Michigan State University.</p>
<p>RJK, you are assuming that those residents will get into Michigan. That is not always the case. Most Big 10 schools have lower admissions standards for OOS students than Michigan has for IS students.</p>
<p>"Oh wow, I am a resident of Michigan and attend Iowa. Also half of the University of Iowa most recent freshmen class were out of state students. It’s a great school. I personally wouldn’t want to attend the University of Michigan or Michigan State University. "</p>
<p>Only 17 students from the incoming class of 2010 from the University of Iowa were from Michigan. Clearly a majority of students prefer the University of Michigan and MSU due to their value and world class academics. </p>
<p>It’s also surprising that the University of Iowa has more OOS than IS students. That says a lot about the schools inability to attract its own in state population.</p>
<p>“It’s also surprising that the University of Iowa has more OOS than IS students. That says a lot about the schools inability to attract its own in state population.”</p>
<p>With a state population of only 3 million people, University of Iowa by default has to open its door to out-of-state students to meet enrollment numbers. </p>
<p>“Only 17 students from the incoming class of 2010 from the University of Iowa were from Michigan. Clearly a majority of students prefer the University of Michigan and MSU due to their value and world class academics.”</p>
<p>Michigan has other public universities (directional, valley, state) and private LACs that provide a better overall educational value than University of Iowa. They may not be world-class, but, if the student wants to remain closer to home and/or is planning to stay in Michigan, then they remain a good deal.</p>
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<p>Actually Iowa population of high school students is decreasing. Although the University of Iowa is a public ivy, the state of Iowa also have two other public universities.</p>
<p>This article also state that the freshmen class saw a increase in residents. However I would not put that a focus as the state of Iowa population is about 3 million compared to Michigan at 9.8 million.</p>
<p><a href=“http://www.nytimes.com/2010/08/04/education/04admissions.html?pagewanted=1[/url]”>http://www.nytimes.com/2010/08/04/education/04admissions.html?pagewanted=1</a></p>
<p>or </p>
<p><a href=“http://thechoice.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/08/03/iowa/[/url]”>http://thechoice.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/08/03/iowa/</a></p>
<p>“RJK, you are assuming that those residents will get into Michigan.”</p>
<p>I was just assuming that the OP was a stellar student, hence my remarks.</p>
<p>The OP did mention Northwestern and Michigan, which indicates a degree of academic ambition. I think Chicago would be a great addition. But at the same time, a student strong enough to get into Chicago or NU could probably manage an excellent scholarship from IU or Iowa.</p>
<p>Although the University of Iowa is a public ivy, the state of Iowa also have two other public universities.</p>
<p>? What’s a “public ivy”???</p>
<p>The original eight public Ivy’s are the University of Michigan, University of Virginia, University of North Carolina - Chapel Hill, University of Vermont Burlington, University of Texas - Austin, College of William and Mary, University of California School System and finally the Miami University.</p>
<p>These are basically public universities that rival Ivy League Universities in terms of research, undergraduate and graduate education, distinguished professors, opportunities and endowment figures.</p>
<p>Although Harvard, Yale and Princeton are in another league, the University of Michigan, UCLA and UC Berkeley, UNC and UVA are peers to the other five Ivy League Universities. This statement has been argued many times on CC. But this is the general idea.</p>
<p>Just to get an idea of where I am and maybe get some different colleges in the mix, how do I stack up for all the colleges mentioned in this thread?</p>
<p>-White female
-GPA: 3.753
-ACT: 31
-Extracurriculars: captain of forensics team, captain of freshman mentoring program, tennis
-My school doesn’t rank, but according to the ACT I took in March I’m in the top quarter</p>
<p>Thoughts?</p>
<p>It’s know to know what to suggest without knowing anything about your statistics. If you are from Michigan and you get into Michigan then you usually need some compelling reason to go somewhere else. Coolbreeze wasn’t admitted to Michigan so his advise should be taken in that context although Iowa seems to have worked out well for him and his Iowa recommendation should carry some weight.</p>
<p>Middlebury College is known for a language program. It is a little larger than Kalamazoo but much more selective.</p>
<p>Most of the schools on Alexandre’s list are within driving distance of Detroit and it may make sense to visit some of them to get a feel for the campuses. There is a big difference between a small liberal arts college like Kalamazoo and a large state university.</p>
<p>St, Olaf College in Northfield, Minnesota…</p>
<p>Very strong math department, excellent in foreign languages and its study abroad programs.</p>