<p>I heard that at some LACs, it's possible to run out of math classes! By the time I graduate from high school, I will have taken calculus BC, multivariable calculus, ordinary differential equations, linear algebra, real analysis, and possibly more. I want schools that have a large amount of class offerings...also strong in math...yea! :D</p>
<p>(Oh and if you haven't figured it out, I want to major in math!)</p>
<p>Also, please suggest a few different levels, as in not all as competitive to get into as MIT, Caltech, Stanford, etc :) (I think I'm a solid applicant for UC Berkeley, UCLA. Instate for them)</p>
<p>Oh and I like to be surrounded by ppl like me...so I guess the more math majors the merrier?</p>
<p>Brown University
California Institute of Technology
Columbia University
Cornell University
Duke University
Harvard University
Massachusetts Institute of Technology
New York University
Northwestern University
Princeton University
Stanford University
University of California-Berkeley
University of California-Los Angeles
University of Chicago
University of Illinois-Urbana Champaign
University of Michigan
University of Pennsylvania
University of Texas-Austin
University of Wisconsin-Madison
Yale University</p>
<p>Of the schools on Alexandre’s list, one that would seem to hit the sweet spot between high reputation (for math) and selectivity (perhaps a low match for you) is NYU. Unfortunately, Manhattan does not exactly meet the other criterion you stated elsewhere (“outdoorsy”). NYU does not have much of a traditional campus at all. Cornell is better in that regard, but much more selective. Wisconsin (Madison) can give you outdoorsy, and generally is considered one of the better state universities, though I don’t know if their math department is especially strong or not.</p>
<p>yes, UW-Madison is strong in math and cs, which is math heavy. don’t know too much about it now, as my daughter just started grad school there, but admit rate is not bad for undergrad, might be an oos safety for you. but I don’t know OOS admit rate, should be decent, not as hard a reach, but has very good rankings for undergrad overall (1st tier) and grad school in this area. Beautiful area, nice college town feel, with lakes and tons of bike trails that she is enjoying. However, I don’t have a report of a first winter yet.</p>
<p>She also was admitted to UCB and UCSD for undergrad and only had AP calc BC as a senior, not near your level. but she did have some other special qualifications. She decided to go for the away experience at Brown University, and the financials worked out for that. She took a major in Mathematics and Computer Science which is awarded in the CS dept. She was also admitted to UCLA for Phd program, but the money offer didn’t work out and she turned out to be more interested in the CS theory research being done at Madison anyway.</p>
<p>One thing to look at. Going to a university, instead of an LAC, you usually can take grad school classes as an undergrad. At Brown, you only need the permission of the professor. Her friend who graduated with her in May, but is a pure math major, is now in a PhD program at UCLA, and his senior year of school was all grad classes. He expects to take his quals next year, already.</p>
<p>Most of her friends are physics or math majors, or those majors who stumbled into CS through those areas. You will find them wherever you are.</p>
<p>Someone in another thread mentioned the University of Utah, and I saw that you dismissed it for not being “top” enough, but perhaps you should do more research. They have a very strong program in math (and several other subjects). It also definitely fits the outdoorsy description. The campus is on the side of a mountain on the edge of Salt Lake City, and from there you’re 5 minutes away from both a vibrant and growing city and the middle of nowhere.</p>
<p>You should do more research, and for a safety you could definitely do much worse.</p>
<p>Quantity != quality, but the 30 largest undergraduate math programs (by bachelor’s completions) are as follows:</p>
<p>University of California-Los Angeles
University of California-Berkeley
The University of Texas at Austin
University of Washington-Seattle Campus
Stony Brook University
University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign
University of Michigan-Ann Arbor
Pennsylvania State University-Main Campus
Rutgers University-New Brunswick
Massachusetts Institute of Technology
University of California-Irvine
Virginia Polytechnic Institute and State University
University of Minnesota-Twin Cities
Purdue University-Main Campus
University of California-Santa Barbara
University of California-San Diego
North Carolina State University at Raleigh
University of Wisconsin-Madison
University of Maryland-College Park
Illinois State University
University of Colorado at Boulder
SUNY at Albany
University of Florida
University of California-Davis
Grand Valley State University
Texas A & M University
Harvard University
University at Buffalo
University of California-Riverside
University of Chicago</p>
<p>BrownParent made an excellent point about taking graduate classes. If you are willing to really focus on math, it is possible to advance very quickly as an undergrad at a research university.</p>
<p>Also, I really do urge you to consider less-prestigious schools as your safeties. Considering them does not obligate you to enroll there, and you need some safeties. Places like Utah are worth looking at.</p>
<p>sorted by the NUMBER of math graduates, not the proportion</p>
<p>school, US News engineering rank, SAT 75th, total bachelors grads. math grads, proportion of math grads</p>
<p>UNIVERSITY OF CALIFORNIA-BERKELEY 2 1450 6650 221 0.03
UNIVERSITY OF CALIFORNIA-LOS ANGELES 22 1410 7026 218 0.03
THE UNIVERSITY OF TEXAS AT AUSTIN 11 1340 8917 190 0.02
UNIVERSITY OF WASHINGTON-SEATTLE CAMPUS 22 1310 7194 146 0.02
UNIVERSITY OF ILLINOIS AT URBANA-CHAMPAIGN 4 1410 6763 98 0.01
MASSACHUSETTS INSTITUTE OF TECHNOLOGY 1 1560 1194 94 0.08
PENNSYLVANIA STATE UNIVERSITY-MAIN CAMPUS 18 1290 9134 91 0.01
PURDUE UNIVERSITY-MAIN CAMPUS 8 1260 6242 86 0.01
UNIVERSITY OF MICHIGAN-ANN ARBOR 6 1390 5923 86 0.01
VIRGINIA POLYTECHNIC INSTITUTE AND STATE UNIV 14 1290 4876 85 0.02
UNIVERSITY OF MINNESOTA-TWIN CITIES 18 1280 6049 80 0.01
UNIVERSITY OF WISCONSIN-MADISON 12 1390 6336 75 0.01
TEXAS A & M UNIVERSITY 14 1300 7914 73 0.01
HARVARD UNIVERSITY 31 1580 1797 72 0.04
RUTGERS UNIVERSITY-NEW BRUNSWICK 51 1310 5734 68 0.01
UNIVERSITY OF CALIFORNIA-SANTA BARBARA 36 1300 4564 68 0.01
UNIVERSITY OF MARYLAND-COLLEGE PARK 22 1370 5959 65 0.01
OHIO STATE UNIVERSITY-MAIN CAMPUS 27 1280 8288 64 0.01
UNIVERSITY OF CALIFORNIA-DAVIS 27 1280 5608 63 0.01
UNIVERSITY OF CALIFORNIA-SAN DIEGO 22 1360 4131 62 0.02
UNIVERSITY OF COLORADO AT BOULDER 36 1280 5196 62 0.01
MICHIGAN STATE UNIVERSITY 41 1240 7783 60 0.01
UNIVERSITY OF FLORIDA 31 1360 8574 60 0.01
NEW YORK UNIVERSITY 1410 4492 58 0.01
UNIVERSITY OF CALIFORNIA-IRVINE 49 1310 4633 57 0.01
UNIVERSITY OF CALIFORNIA-RIVERSIDE 1200 2893 55 0.02
UNIVERSITY OF ROCHESTER 1410 1174 52 0.04
BOSTON UNIVERSITY 67 1390 3991 50 0.01
UNIVERSITY OF CHICAGO 1530 1014 48 0.05
UNIVERSITY OF CALIFORNIA-SANTA CRUZ 1280 3053 48 0.02
COLUMBIA UNIVERSITY IN THE CITY OF NEW YORK 27 1560 1804 46 0.03
CARNEGIE MELLON UNIVERSITY 8 1480 1261 43 0.03
UNIVERSITY OF PITTSBURGH-MAIN CAMPUS 57 1330 3861 42 0.01
SUNY AT BINGHAMTON 1340 2285 41 0.02
INDIANA UNIVERSITY-BLOOMINGTON 1220 6172 41 0.01
UNIVERSITY OF NOTRE DAME 41 1470 2052 40 0.02
UNIVERSITY OF MISSOURI-COLUMBIA 1280 4086 40 0.01
BRIGHAM YOUNG UNIVERSITY 1320 6829 39 0.01
STANFORD UNIVERSITY 2 1550 1713 38 0.02
VANDERBILT UNIVERSITY 41 1440 1514 35 0.02
CORNELL UNIVERSITY-ENDOWED COLLEGES 8 1490 3577 35 0.01
MIAMI UNIVERSITY-OXFORD 1320 3784 35 0.01
IOWA STATE UNIVERSITY 36 1230 4523 33 0.01
UNIVERSITY OF GEORGIA 1320 5769 33 0.01
SOUTHERN METHODIST UNIVERSITY 1300 1397 32 0.02
UNIVERSITY OF CONNECTICUT 1270 3673 32 0.01
UNIVERSITY OF VIRGINIA-MAIN CAMPUS 31 1430 3207 32 0.01
DARTMOUTH COLLEGE 41 1550 1064 31 0.03
NORTHWESTERN UNIVERSITY 14 1500 1999 31 0.02
BROWN UNIVERSITY 36 1520 1490 30 0.02
UNIVERSITY OF IOWA 51 1240 4015 29 0.01
BOSTON COLLEGE 1410 2223 28 0.01
THE UNIVERSITY OF TENNESSEE 67 1240 4035 28 0.01
DUKE UNIVERSITY 22 1530 1539 26 0.02
RENSSELAER POLYTECHNIC INSTITUTE 18 1420 1319 26 0.02
JOHNS HOPKINS UNIVERSITY 14 1490 1288 25 0.02
UNIVERSITY OF PENNSYLVANIA 27 1510 2797 25 0.01
GEORGIA INSTITUTE OF TECHNOLOGY-MAIN CAMPUS 6 1430 2594 22 0.01
CALIFORNIA INSTITUTE OF TECHNOLOGY 4 1570 208 21 0.1
COLLEGE OF WILLIAM AND MARY 1440 1418 21 0.01
UNIVERSITY OF SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA 31 1440 4344 21 0
WORCESTER POLYTECHNIC INSTITUTE 51 1390 605 20 0.03
PRINCETON UNIVERSITY 12 1560 1114 20 0.02
CLEMSON UNIVERSITY 57 1300 3020 20 0.01
EMORY UNIVERSITY 1460 1480 19 0.01
GEORGETOWN UNIVERSITY 1470 1670 18 0.01
BAYLOR UNIVERSITY 1290 2296 17 0.01
WASHINGTON UNIVERSITY IN ST LOUIS 41 1520 1634 17 0.01
CASE WESTERN RESERVE UNIVERSITY 36 1420 790 16 0.02
YALE UNIVERSITY 41 1560 1339 16 0.01
WAKE FOREST UNIVERSITY 1410 1000 15 0.02
TUFTS UNIVERSITY 67 1470 1336 15 0.01
AUBURN UNIVERSITY MAIN CAMPUS 67 1210 3917 15 0
SYRACUSE UNIVERSITY 67 1320 2798 14 0.01
LEHIGH UNIVERSITY 41 1380 1123 13 0.01
RICE UNIVERSITY 18 1540 716 11 0.02
FORDHAM UNIVERSITY 1290 1604 11 0.01
UNIVERSITY OF MIAMI 1350 2155 11 0.01
MARQUETTE UNIVERSITY 1280 1549 10 0.01
TULANE UNIVERSITY OF LOUISIANA 1435 1452 10 0.01
UNIVERSITY OF DELAWARE 51 1280 3392 9 0
YESHIVA UNIVERSITY 1350 575 8 0.01
BRANDEIS UNIVERSITY 1440 816 7 0.01
CLARK UNIVERSITY 1305 449 6 0.01
AMERICAN UNIVERSITY 1350 1291 5 0
PEPPERDINE UNIVERSITY 1310 800 4 0.01
STEVENS INSTITUTE OF TECHNOLOGY 1390 352 4 0.01
GEORGE WASHINGTON UNIVERSITY 1370 1993 4 0
UNIVERSITY OF DENVER 1230 931 4 0
SAINT LOUIS UNIVERSITY-MAIN CAMPUS 1320 1614 3 0</p>
<p>I guess, that’s good advice, hopefully I won’t have to resort to my safeties though.</p>
<p>Michigan’s honors program looks good, I’ll ask them for more info.</p>
<p>Well right now, if I go for schools that have graduate programs, the schools on my list are:
Stanford U
U Calif Berkeley
U Calif Davis
U Calif Irvine
U Calif Los Angeles
U Calif San Diego
U Calif Santa Barb (does anyone know about the CCS program here?)
U Illinois Urbana
U Michigan
U of Waterloo</p>
<p>Seems like its hard to get outdoor and with grad program at the same time. Are there any recommendations of schools I should look at? I guess the outdoors thing it okay; I’ll just go somewhere great for winter/spring break And I can’t find much info about the undergrad program on the Utah site!</p>
<p>And do you think its possible to consider Davis/Irvine/SB as safeties? Or should I seek a bit lower?</p>
<p>Talking about the “outdoors” is really rather vague. All that does is eliminate schools right in the center of a city. Many people like the outdoors in Minnesota, but mountains are preferable to some.</p>
<p>We can’t say where you’ll probably get in unless you provide us with your stats.</p>
<p>My DH is a math prof at USC, since '86. He got his undergrad at the UW-Seattle and took many grad level classes before completing his BS. He had many great choices of where to go to grad school and ended up choosing MIT due toa professor he wanted to work with there. Through hard work and a bit of luck, he was actually able to obain his PhD in three years (and here I thought he did it so we could get married but years later, he told me the big push was so he could attend MSRI, then just off the UC Berkeley campus … fooled me!)</p>
<p>I would echo the University of Utah, University of California at Berkeley, University of Michigan and the University of Chicago. Those sound like schools you are likely to get into. Then you can also apply to some of the others on your list that are harder to get into.</p>
<p>The University of Chicago is outstanding. It has the highest math major percentage of any university on collegehelp’s list, aside from the engineering schools. However, you’d be deep inside a big city where you may not be too happy.</p>
<p>If your interest is really in math, then you should look outside schools that might immediately come to mind. For example, Harvard and Princeton, along with MIT, have the three best graduate math departments in the country. And Princeton probably isn’t one of the first schools that come to mind if you think “math heavy.” So don’t feel limited to “techish” schools.</p>
<p>Here’s my stats, some predicted, as I’m a junior right now</p>
<p>Chinese female
CA resident (thats why I had a whole bunch of UCs on my list)
GPA: 4.1-4.2W, 3.8-3.9UW
Top 10% of class for sure…
SAT (took some practice tests): 2000-2200 (800 in math, 600-700 in the other two)
ACT: Ranged from 31-33, with 35 and 36s in math/science, lower in the other two.
Subject test: Math 800 (got results), Physics 700 (got results)
APs: AP Calc BC (5), AP Physics B (4), AP Chemistry, AP Statistics, AP English language, AP English literature, APES, AP Econ
College classes: Taking multivariable calculus right now, differential equations next semester, linear algebra also next semester or senior year, possibly going to Berkeley over the summer to senior year to take something?</p>
<p>EC/Acheivements (so far):
Math team 3 years…qualified for AIME in sophomore year, should qualify again this year. Won 1st place freshman year in 9th grade Pythagorean division in school, 2nd place sophomore year for California League in school. Officer fresh/soph year, captain junior year.
Founder of model rocketry club…1 year
Founder of moonbuggy team…1 year
Play viola in youth orchestra…5 years
Viola in quartet…3 years
Wrestling/MMA
100+ hours of volunteering at local hospital
Johns Hopkins Center for Talented Youth Mathematics Talent Search award in 7th grade for scoring over a 700 on sat 1 math.</p>
And I can’t find much info about the undergrad program on the Utah site!</p>