<p>Can GS students take following Columbia College Core Curriculum courses ?</p>
<p>Humanities C1001-C1002: Masterpieces of Western literature and philosophy </p>
<p>Contemporary Civilization C1101-C1102: Introduction to contemporary civilization</p>
<p>I think GS students can take any courses they want to.</p>
<p>I hope this question hasn't been asked before. I was wondering if anyone has stats on the success of transferring from GS to the College? Or even from GS to any other Ivy League if you'd be under 25 yrs? Thanks.</p>
<p>my guess would be very very little chance</p>
<p>Hi Leo, Yes I am a student at GS right now. I am in my second semester. My essay was 6 pages long double-spaced but some of my friends wrote only four pages. (This is the most important part of your application, make sure you don't have any grammatical errors or spelling mistakes. Make it a solid essay). It is very important to put what you plan to get out of GS. Do some research on the school.</p>
<p>Interviews are not needed but they will conduct interviews on the phone if there is something on your application that the selection committeee cannot understand.</p>
<p>I transferred from a Community College so I didn't have a break between CC and GS. I had a 3.8 GPA at CC and I took the relatively easy General Studies Entrance Examination as I had taken the SAT around 13 years ago.</p>
<p>Most GS students live in Campus housing shared apartments and dorm rooms but I chose to live in Brooklyn.</p>
<p>And finally the acceptance rate for my class was 57%. Yes, 57%. So, if you turn in an error free application with a decent essay and if you have around a 3.5 or even slightly less you will get in for sure.</p>
<p>But I must warn you about the work here: its hard, around 100 pages to read per class for any liberal arts classes. The grading is stiff. You have to really work for an A- and put in a herculean effort for A's.</p>
<p>Hope this helps.</p>
<p>mdx49 </p>
<p>Yes you can take those classes
in addition, for GS students who want to complete a CC core instead of GS core, they can do that too.. (even GS core is only slightly different than CC core)</p>
<p>Everyone takes the same masterpiece classes (art/music) they fill up fast. I didn't get into any this fall since I had to register on the last day of PREregistration.</p>
<p>CC is divided, much like University Writing. Most of the classes are Columbia College only, since it is a requirement for their curriculum. There are a couple of separate classes for GS/premed students who wish to take the course. All these fill up fast.</p>
<p>GS has a higher dropout rate, but I'd say it's more due to life-complexity than stress from academics. If you keep your courseload down, Columbia isn't that hard (I'm doing 12 credits ATM). The one person in my GS only UW class that dropped out left to go work for the U.N.. I don't think he was having serious problems, he writes speeches for Italian politicians for a living.</p>
<p>Any social differences between GS and CC can, in my opinion, be attributed to age and to GS living in separate housing (we're in grad-student housing) off campus. We're not eating at the cafeteria with the other kids, or bumping into them at the dorms, so it's a slightly different world. </p>
<p>I really only see GS bashing in anonymous internet forums, but the kind of jokes that float around (watch the varsity show) show that the sentiment exists to some extent. Much like the ragging on Barnard (which is actually much more virulent than GS sentiment, girls from CC will get angry if you ask them if they go to Barnard) it will probably never go away. I think of it like military service. To a civilian, all the services seem the same. To an Army guy, the Air Force a joke. To the Navy, the Army and Air Force are a joke. And every other service is a joke as far as the Marines are concerned.</p>
<p>hello everyone,</p>
<p>i am now in my second semester at GS, and have done quite well here. I have had the most phenomenal experiences here and have made lifelong friends. Many of my friends have come from all over the country and have had spectacular careers including venture capitalists, entertainers, and Olympic athletes. Please feel free to email me at <a href="mailto:nrc2107@columbia.edu">nrc2107@columbia.edu</a> if you have any questions about coming to school here. Also, there is a recently launched website that is maintained by GS students. <a href="http://www.gslounge.com%5B/url%5D">www.gslounge.com</a> Check them out if you get a chance as you make your final decision on whether or not to come to school here at GS. See you in the fall!!</p>
<p>Caligula </p>
<p>even the columbia college required classes
GS students are still able to register</p>
<p>for example frontiers of science</p>
<p>is only part of the CC core</p>
<p>yet GS student can use it to satisfy it's science requirement</p>
<p>except.. if you want to register Columbia College Core classes..
you have to register in the CC Core curriculum office instead and not with your GS advisor..</p>
<p>I'm going to GS in the fall. There seems to be several misconceptions about GS on this board. First of all, GS students can take any classes they want. The two core classes only open to CC students (LitHum and Contemporary Civilization) may also be taken. GS students simply petition for them. I talked to an academic counselor at Columbia and he said that while CC students have priority registration for these classes, he has not seen any instances of GS students not being able to enroll in them. So, for the GS student who decides to follow the CC core, his/her education is IDENTICAL to a CC or SEAS student's.</p>
<p>The other issue is the presige factor. Some think GS is inferior or viewed negatively by third parties. I cannot speak for everyone here, but I am particularily concerned with law school prospects after GS. Specifically, I wondered if top law schools discriminate against schools like GS because they're easier to get into. So, I emailed the former Dean of The University of Chicago Law School. Here's what she said:</p>
<p>"Hi xxxxx -- the extension/non-traditional programs are very different at different schools. Harvard's, for example, uses the same professors, but the extension folks are in separate classes. The GS program at Columbia is quite different, as you know, so your performance there is treated as if you were any other Columbia undergrad -- law school admissions officers won't care how hard or not it was to get in; if you distinguish yourself in classes with the other undergrads, that will be rewarded."</p>
<p>I hope this post clears up some of the misconceptions about GS.</p>
<p>The difference between GS and CC.....c'mon this is quite rediculous. There is one truth though: CC students have all the right to hate GS students because to get into GS not only you need to have extraordinary numbers but also an extraordinary life. The reason why you get accepted is because you have something unique to bring with you that will make a difference. Not only you have to take the same identical classes with CC students but actually GS students are much much much more competitive because they know what they want, they had their share of years outside so they don't want to spend anymore time in futile things. The majority of GS students are pre-meds.....you get the idea.
On the other side CC students, they are great, don't get me wrong. However, let's face the facts: they come straight from HIGH SCHOOL!</p>
<p>i'm curious if anyone has any idea what my chance of getting to GS appear to be...</p>
<p>i had about a 3.5 gpa in high school. i finsihed a year of college at sarah lawrence, the entire time working as a debate coach for a prestigious high school, edgemont, in scarsdale, ny. over the school year i traveled all over the place with the team to states such as new york, illinois, california, kentucky, michigan, texas, wash d.c., and others. this is what i have written about and is my, you could call it, "theme" for getting into the school.</p>
<p>in high school i was also a debater, placing 6th in the nation my senior year and 3rd in california my junior year. </p>
<p>i wrote my essay about how spending a year at slc taught me that i would rather keep fiction writing out of my academics, and that working as a debate coach reinvigorated my interest in pursuing politics. i also dedicated a major portion of the essay to describing the current politics at the school i work for (head coach is leaving and no one is replacing him; i'm trying to rework the program i love so it stays afloat while at the same time getting a good education).</p>
<p>as a side note, one of my letters of reccomendation came from the head coach of the school i work for. he is a columbia alumn and is now a doctor of biological sciences.</p>
<p>any responses are very much appreciated.</p>
<p>I am delighted to read some discussion about Columbia GS. I went there many years ago, and I cannot say enough good things about the school. When I went there, it did not offer the social life that CC had. I already lived in NYC, and I went home after class. This was fine with me. As an adult, I already had a life outside of CU.<br>
I was accepted into the joint degree program BA/MBA so I had 3 years of undergraduate at GS. BTW, I did have to take the GMAT. I completed an economics major, although I did not have to complete a major for the joint degree. Two of my economics professors won the Nobel Prize for economics, and I love that one of them gave me an A+. I remember that I took a graduate symposium in economics as well.<br>
It's a great school! To be honest, in my case I did not have the maturity and discipline to handle the work load of Columbia when I was 17. Please don't conclude that this must be true for all GS students. Some of my classmates had been ballerinas or had served in the armed forces or had other circumstances. When I matured, I appreciated the school and applied myself. It really is not a school for students just out of high school. The social life and support structure that this group needs was not there when I attended GS. The GS & CC student bodies are different. Each school is better for its student body.</p>
<p>I guess many people thinks that ::
Columbia College is at the same level as Columbia General Studies
Columbia College is at the same level as Barnard College</p>
<p>That is exactly why Columbia College is a 2nd class Ivy League School</p>
<p>....and you are saying this just because you enjoy being offensive...or you have some facts to back it up?</p>
<p>I've been to all ivy's. The only distiction was that their campuses were bigger!!!!</p>
<p>Im 21 and will be attending GS as a freshman in the fall. Who cares if CC discriminates against GS? I know the course work is the same, the professors are the same and the degree is the same. Life is what you make of it. Well be in the greatest city in the world and there is more to life in NY than Morningside Heights. If youre an older student, then you already have a life off campus and will probably get more respect from the faculty/students because of your experience. If youre young like me then most people wont care. If they do, hopefully therere too preoccupied with appearance to make the grade and will wash out after the first year.</p>
<p>Hey Tomcat21...</p>
<p>when did you hear from columbia gs? and how did how did you hear from them? phone call? letter? </p>
<p>i've recently applied to the school of general studies. i applied beginning of may. very anxious to hear from them. </p>
<p>did you get a great aid package...just wondering...</p>
<p>Dear, Tomcat21</p>
<p>I am a prospective gs. I would transfering with a 3.7. GS seems </p>
<p>to be a great place for adult students. The best way to </p>
<p>prove this is by looking at the degre itself. Does the degree say</p>
<p>school of general studies or just columbia? Do gs students attend</p>
<p>the same ceremony when they graduate.</p>
<p>The degree will say Columbia University and General Studies. GS students attend their own separate Class Day ceremony (as do Columbia College students) and attend the campus-wide commencement with all other students (Columbia College, SEAS, Barnard, Business School, Law School, etc.).</p>
<p>Hey James93921,</p>
<p>I got a phone call from Evelyn Kirtcher(Director of Admissions) but I knew I was in 3 day before because I called FedEx and they said I had a two pound package on the way. That's how a lot of people find out they got in. The two pound package is the admissions kit. Don't be anxious. I applied in Feb and didn't hear until the end of April. As for aid, that is a s***y subject. Take a look at Columbia Colleges financial aid site and then look at GS. Notice how small GS's site is? That because the have NO aid. ZIP, NIL, NADA! What the sources say a freshman gets varies. All the websites say the average is $2,500 but I spoke to the director of scholarships and he said $5,600 is average. That's still crappy for a school that cost's $30,000 in tuition and $16,000 room and board. I'm luck and have veterans benefits to back me up but as of right now I am still $10,000 short. I think I will have it by the start of school but this is still ridiculously tough compared to what Columbia College kids get. Anybody out there a current GS student with any advice on financial aid?</p>