Informaton on Dual BA/MBA Program

<p>Hi guys,</p>

<p>My name is Tyler and I'm considering applying to GS for the fall semester. </p>

<p>Does anyone know any specifics for the dual ba/mba business program they have available? I've read about it a few times but I've been unable to located sufficient information. </p>

<p>Any tidbits of information or direction on where to find some would be wonderful.</p>

<p>I don’t think we have any such thing. There are a few 2-in-5 type programs in the engineering school, with the School of International Affairs and maybe the J School. But, that’s a pretty big break with convention to award MBAs to people who are just out of their undergrad.</p>

<p>I’d venture to guess you can’t find anything because it’s not anywhere to be found.</p>

<p>Are the GS students competitive for the business school?</p>

<p>Sure, if you’re bright, have good scores, good work experience, and good recs, you’re competitive.</p>

<p>I would like to find out if there is any GS BS/MBA dual program too. I came upon this post:
<a href=“http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/columbia-university/30154-columbia-college-vs-school-general-studies-11.html#post2615369[/url]”>http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/columbia-university/30154-columbia-college-vs-school-general-studies-11.html#post2615369&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p>However, I am not sure if that is true or if that is a thing of past.</p>

<p>Yes, that was some of what I was referring to. The post dates back to 2006, but there are two separate individuals who mention it. One claims to have actually participated in the program.</p>

<p>oh nice! I wanted to go to CU School of Business for my MBA too, so if this is true it will be great! Im going to start researching on this. If I find something I’ll let you know.</p>

<p>SEE BELOW:</p>

<p>[Study</a> Within Columbia’s Graduate and Professional Schools | General Studies](<a href=“http://www.gs.columbia.edu/study-within-columbias-graduate-and-professional-schools]Study”>http://www.gs.columbia.edu/study-within-columbias-graduate-and-professional-schools)</p>

<p>Joint, Combined, and Dual Degree Programs
GS supports several dual-, combined-, and joint-degree programs with Columbia’s professional schools. Students must be specially nominated for these programs and only highly qualified candidates will be considered. The minimum requirements for a nomination for most of these highly competitive programs include: a grade-point average of 3.5; a minimum of 60 credits toward the degree, of which at least 30 letter-graded credits must have been earned at GS; and satisfactory and relevant professional experience. Qualified students should discuss their interest in one of these programs with their GS academic advisors and attend the information sessions about these programs sponsored by the Dean of Students Office and the individual professional schools.</p>

<p>Students are normally expected to complete their core requirements and a concentration prior to enrollment in the professional school for the combined or dual degree. More information about the application process and requirements for these combined and joint programs will be provided to qualified students. Following are the schools and programs to which GS may recommend highly qualified candidates for combined or joint degrees:</p>

<p>College of Dental Medicine
Columbia Business School
Columbia School of Law
The Fu Foundation School of Engineering and Applied Science
The Program in Occupational Therapy, College of Physicians and Surgeons
The School of International and Public Affairs
The School of Social Work</p>

<p>Awesome, thank you very much for the information.</p>

<p>Tyler, the link is directly from the CU-GS website…so any further info will have to be provided from a GS’er currently attending and/or an admissions officer. Also, I dont think it would hurt if you call CU and ask about how competitive it is. Ask for a % of applicants that actual get to enter the dual program, being that it is so competitive. If accepted, I definitely plan on going to one of those info sessions so that I can start building my credentials in order to be recommended for the Dual Program ;)</p>

<p>Hmm, I’m still not sure that this is an MBA program. You can cross-register and do a business-focused major through the business school - which is a relatively new option - but that’s not an MBA.</p>

<p>Columbia has one of the best business schools in the world so any way in is going to be hellaciously competitive.</p>

<p>I spoke to a CC counselor over the phone about this program.</p>

<p>As stated above, if you’re a killer student, you get admitted into Columbia Business School (MBA program) during your senior year, and you’re allowed to begin taking courses towards your MBA while finishing up undergrad. Once you finish your undergraduate coursework totally, you go full blown into the MBA program. Because you’ve already begun a few courses your senior year, completing your MBA usually takes less than the typical 2 years. This type of program is becoming more common at large universities, UPenn being another one (Wharton). </p>

<p>From the sound of the CC staff whom I spoke with, this is not an easy program to be admitted into</p>

<p>Wow, I’ve never heard of this. I know that there’s something similar with the law school. But, with that, they admit one or two people a year. So, I’ve never met anyone who has done it.</p>

<p>That’s pretty cool.</p>

<p>Tyler,</p>

<p>The program requires you to have all of your GS core and major requirements completed by 90 credit hours, so the last hours of the degree can be business courses. When I inquired in 2009, the dean in charge of GS dual degree programs told me that only two GS students have completed a dual program with the business school and their GPA’s were above 3.8. </p>

<p>Hope this helps…and you were accepted.</p>

<p>Man, I wish I’d known about this. Not sure if I would’ve been a good candidate, of course. But this sounds like it would be a extraordinary opportunity.</p>

<p>I encourage anyone who pursues this program to post about the process here on this forum.</p>

<p>Hi </p>

<p>Does any body know if the internet application site is up-to date. I did not get any mail about whether they received my application and when i go to check it says not receives/processed. </p>

<p>I don’t know if i should call the school and check or what</p>

<p>Any ideas?</p>

<p>thanks</p>

<p>If you have a couple years of Consulting or Finance under your belt, then disregard what I will say. If not, read on:</p>

<p>Before I move on with my rant, a disclaimer:</p>

<p>I have no Consulting or Finance background yet. But I have spoken to a few professionals from Bain, McKinsey, Morgan Stanley, and have spent endless nights religiously conducting an absurd amount of Googling. </p>

<p>There are roughly three types of people that attend any elite business school like Columbia; the Consultant, the Finance guy ( PE, IB, HF etc), and the non-finance-non-consulting dude. But lets face it, most people in business school are in it for the money, or the fabulous exit opps, which still leads to even more money. That means Consulting, Finance, or some type of upper level executive position that you can only break into with an MBA. In any case, the Consulting, or Finance guy can easily break into a niche industry, but someone from a niche industry has a more difficult time the other way around.</p>

<p>All things considered, You want to make sure that you are either the Consulting, or the Finance guy if you want the best opportunities. I would probably wait until I have more experience in any XYZ Consulting or Finance stint after graduating from GS instead of going straight for an MBA without it. Going this route makes a lot of sense and would give the best exit opps, period.</p>

<p>If you haven’t already been an analyst for two-three years, its going to be a tough climb. Even if I was able to get a job despite my lack of industry specific experience, my salary would be far less compared to my ex-two-year-analyst peers at Columbia Business. </p>

<p>The class statistics for Columbia Business is dominated by Consultants or ex-bankers from boutique banks and lesser known consulting agencies trying to move into Buldge brackets as associates because that is obviously where the money is. Everyone else is already at a Buldge bracket like GS, BS, or Mck using an MBA to move up the ranks. Those without any consultant or finance experience are usually stuck in their industry, or lucky enough to be hired by a consulting firm that may need their “specific” talent.</p>

<p>Having the right type of industry experience can make all the difference between working at Blackstone, or a two-bit finance position at Raytheon after an MBA. Your choice. Im paying top dollar for both my undergraduate and graduate degrees, my career[s] should at least reflect the high price I paid for my education.</p>

<p>Heres the list of feeder companies to Columbia business to give you an idea:</p>

<p>[Top</a> Feeder Companies to Columbia B-School | Poets and Quants](<a href=“http://poetsandquants.com/2011/09/08/top-feeder-companies-to-columbia-b-school/2/]Top”>http://poetsandquants.com/2011/09/08/top-feeder-companies-to-columbia-b-school/2/)</p>