<p>Dartmouth gets the most? </p>
<p>Interesting articles but not anything I will give a 2nd thought to.</p>
<p>The fact that they went with mid-career medians for the comparison really minimizes the effect of the attended college.</p>
<p>Whatever salary I end up making when I'm 37-40 won't be a direct result of the fact that I went to Columbia. At that point you've made your own path. Now if they'd done it for the 22-27 age bracket, it would have been a different story.</p>
<p>right, which would be more measurable and at least relevant to this generation of Columbia graduates. Those who went to Columbia in 1988-1991 shared rather little with me and my friends in terms of job prospects.</p>
<p>besides, note the methodology:</p>
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Survey respondents included two sets of U.S. bachelor's degree graduates: Full-time workers with 5.5 years of experience or less and full-time employees with 10 or more years of experience.</p>
<h1>The survey excluded respondents who reported having advanced degrees, including M.B.A.s, M.D.s and J.D.s. Self-employed, project-based, and contract employees were also not included.</h1>
<h1>Salary included annual cash compensation, including base salary or hourly wages, combined with commissions, bonuses, profit sharing and other forms of cash earnings.
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<p>that 2nd bullet is particularly egregious. i don't know how they can control for it in a study, but people earning advanced degrees (and ability to get into those programs, and the jobs before/during/after those programs) is a huge portion of the value of a top education.</p>
<p>edit: they even note, "For some liberal arts, Ivy League, and highly selective schools, graduates with higher degrees can represent a significant fraction of all graduates." Whoops. </p>
<p>Good luck to all those Dartmouth kids who never get a higher degree, start their own business, or work in the financial world.</p>
<p>yea bullet two just makes the whole thing retarded, it's also looking at grads a while back, making any good methodology focus on largely irrelevant data. I'll be candid and say columbia was a far worse school in the early 90s, esp. because of new york's shabby, crime-ridden reputation. </p>
<p>god help a school which produces entrepreneurs, or professionals who want to get a professional degree - this is a huge number at most schools, esp. HYP, columbia, penn. Cornell has a lot of engineers and more non mba, MD, JD folks. B, D are more liberal arts oriented, so would have more going on to get PHDs in an academic discipline. There's a good mix in all schools but just talking from an average perspective.</p>
<p>lol. I chose Columbia over Dartmouth :P</p>
<p>On the flip side- I transferred from Columbia to Dartmouth. Dartmouth is incredibly underrated when it comes to business. Its recruiting/ career services/ special Dartmouth-only internship programs into banking/ consulting are incredible. Columbia is no slouch though!</p>
<p>yeah, and among the pool of graduates who never get graduate degrees, you guys seemingly do great! :P</p>
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Al Lee, director of qualitative analysis at PayScale.
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<p>About</a> Al Lee, Director of Quantitative Analysis, PayScale, Inc.</p>
<p>This dude has a PhD from physics and is cranking out such useless and misleading tripe? He clearly can't be dumb. He's probably just out to make a quick buck and figured that he can make headlines and get attention with a bullsh1t study like this.</p>
<p>Buffet graduated from Columbia business school. As a graduate of the business school I can say that it is very removed from the undergrad experience.</p>
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What's funny is Warren Buffett Graduated from Columbia.
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<p>What makes this funny? Besides what slipper said, do you realize the silliness of debunking a study (which can be debunked on all sorts of other grounds) with a single counterexample?</p>
<p>Not only is this study flawed, but naturally the most intelligent, motivated students are the highest paid.</p>
<p>Even lower than Cornell grads? Who would've ever thought so?</p>
<p>Heh...Cornell is so abused within the ivy.</p>
<p>Damn that is an own.</p>
<p>"Damn that is an own."</p>
<p>what is?</p>