<p>ttforcefed I believe that you were misinformed. There's a book "A for Admissions" that describes yale's legacy admit rate at roughly 30%. Someone at the admissions office was either misinformed or making stuff up--- the legacy admit rate can not be 80% because Columbia will not displace qualified candidates for 80% of these legacy candidates that statistically are not better than non legacy candidates. When the RD admit rate is 6%, Columbia can not admit 80% of legacy candidates of whom the vast majority are not at Columbia's caliber.</p>
<p>"Sons and daughters of graduates make up 10% to 15% of students at most Ivy League schools and enjoy sharply higher rates of acceptance. Harvard accepts 40% of legacy applicants, compared with an 11% overall acceptance rate. Princeton took 35% of alumni children who applied last year, and 11% of overall applicants. The University of Pennsylvania accepts 41% of legacy applicants, compared with 21% overall."</p>
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the legacy admit rate can not be 80% because Columbia will not displace qualified candidates for 80% of these legacy candidates that statistically are not better than non legacy candidates. When the RD admit rate is 6%, Columbia can not admit 80% of legacy candidates of whom the vast majority are not at Columbia's caliber.
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<p>what?? how can you claim all that with absolutely no proof? especially that columbia is morally just and that the "vast majority" of legacy candidates are not qualified.....your post is absurdly uninformed</p>
<p>that being said though i agree with C02, 80% sounds way too high and 90 sounds WAY too low....i mean just think about it for a second...if you are a legacy you will probably apply regardless of whether you wanna go there or whether you'r qualified just for the better odds</p>
<p>Most selective schools say that the legacy acceptance rate is 40%. When you say they said the entering class of 2006 you are assuming they mean the freshman from last year. Is that what they are talking about? Last years class was the class of 2010.
I find it hard to believe that 80% of legacies would be admitted. I find it hard to believe that only 90 applied. With 18,000 appications it is more likely that a much larger number applied. Usually at school like Columbia legacies comprise 15% of those who are accepted. I do not believe that 90 applied, rather that 90 were admitted and thta those 90 were accepted at a 40% acceptance rate.</p>
<p>The admit rate for legacies actually can vary pretty widely from year to year at the Ivies. Of course the admit rate is higher than normal applicants. It is correct that last year 70 out of 90 were admitted, but in years previous the admit rate for legacies has been as low as 25%. Higher percentages tend to occur when less legacies happen to apply for that particular year.
It really does depend on both the applicant and the legacy's parents' connection to the school (e.g. have they been active alumni, consistent donors, is their name Milstein or Nadler, etc...)</p>
<p>My friend is an alumni interviewer for Columbia. Last year, he showed me real info from the Columbia admissions office not the bogus info that is being mentioned here.
The rate for legacy ED: approx. 30%, RD approx. 10%. There was no benefit for legacy RD because Columbia wants a high yield.</p>
<p>old person, i call so much BS with that first post of yours that i would need a shovel to dig my way out of it.</p>
<p>I am also an alumni interviewer and we don NOT have access to those records/stats.</p>
<p>I dont know why some of you hare having a difficult time with this. Other schools publish this info, so why would Columbia College run the risk of not being honest with alumni who are potential donors.</p>
<p>I dont know ivyman from adam and he too seems to verify that those are the numbers the school is communicating. Pretty low chance of those being quoted just randomly so for whatever reason, that is what Columbia wants people to believe.</p>
<p>I think it really has to do with how many legacies applied. Most ivy leagues have at least 10% of the freshman class comprised of legaciy appicants. If there are lets say 1500 freshman in a class, then they probably try to have about 150 legacies. If 300 legacies applied in one year the acceptance rate might be 50% for legacies. And that is assuming all legacies come which they dont always do. I inagine tha most schools probably want to have at least a 10% of the class as legacies to foster close relationships with the schools, gift giving ect. If Columbia only had 90 legacies apply last year, then it is reasonable that they took a very high number as indicated on this thread.
I have no problem with believing the acceptance rate for legacies is so high. What is hard to imagine is that of 20,000 applicants that only 90 were legacies. I would have expected that at least 1,000 legacies would have applied.</p>
<p>hey columbia2002, im going to print out this thread and send it to dean Colombo. lets see what he has to say about me being full of sh**. If someone is handing out bad info I’m sure he would want to know about it. And if you really are an admissions officer im sure he would want to see how immature and unprofessional you behavior is in a public forum.</p>
<p>Start's advertising for Columbia Adopter's to take me under the wing =D
Ok....there goes my awkward attempt to diffuse the situation with a joke...If you want annoying posters in perspective check out the UCLA forum....like 5 different threads about 5 different release dates...then another two or three calling for various members to be banned. =S Columbia forum has been surprisingly civil throughout the entire process, so hold out =D</p>
<p>C02 isn't an admissions officer. The columbia officer who reads this forum doesn't post. And if you print out threads and mail them to deans at your alma mater, you need to get a real job.</p>
<p>Um, Why doesn't Columbia release information about admitting legacies? The only school I've looked up this information on is Penn because it was the only college where it really mattered to me, but do most Ivys/top schools publish legacy admit information? Also, I really can't imagine only 90 legacies applying each year (compared to over a thousand for Penn), which is pretty sad for a college at Columbia's level.</p>
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<p>Probably because the numbers themselves look bad (20%-30% or whatever it is vs. 10%), they make the school look like an old boy's club where you get in on your family name rather than your merit, because it would encourage more alumni to send their kids to Columbia just because it could be relatively easy to get in rather than because they want to go there, etc.</p>
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hey columbia2002, im going to print out this thread and send it to dean Colombo. lets see what he has to say about me being full of sh**.
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<p>And they're going to, what, revoke my diploma and not let me be a volunteer alumni interviewer because I'm calling your bluff? Why would Colombo have anything to do with this, anyway? He's not admissions.</p>
<p>columbia, u have in no way called my bluff, because unlike you, i am not full of crap. A few posts ago u were on the admission committee and now ur a volunteer interviewer...u really are a character. I have not misrepresented myself.</p>