Columbia vs. Stony Brook BS/MD program

Pre-Med & Medical School Pre-Med Topics
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<p>hey small town girl....</p>

<p>yes, i thought i'd made it painfully obvious that i go to columbia....
I applied ED to columbia
I've lived in NY my whole life so no the city never "wears off"
I'm a junior
Its pretty rigorous but it pays off at the end if u do the work....of course there r tons of overachievers here and those who arent very serious or dont have a good work ethic fall through the cracks but if you are serious about it and u know how to study u will be fine.
Also, the core is awesome....i'm in the engineering school though so i havent and dont have to take the whole thing, but from what i'v taken i'v really liked it.</p>

<p>if u have more specific quesitons you should consult the columbia university board on which i am quite active or send me a message.</p>

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<p>See where Some "exceptional" Columbia PreMed Students can go....</p>

<p>Here is a Link for Columbia earlier Medical School issurance program:
<a href="http://www.studentaffairs.columbia.edu/preprofessional/health/about_applying/early_assurance.php%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www.studentaffairs.columbia.edu/preprofessional/health/about_applying/early_assurance.php&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>Applicants to these Early Assurance Programs generally must have "exceptional academic credentials" and demonstrate a "high level" of maturity and commitment to their goals</p>

<p>The Columbia Earlier Assurance Program only offers following three medical schools:</p>

<p>Mount Sinai Humanities and Medicine Program
SUNY Upstate College of Medicine Early Assurance Program
University of Buffalo School of Medicine Ealry Assurance Program </p>

<p>Compare with Stony Brook School of Medicine:
(Source: <a href="http://www.usnews.com/usnews/edu/grad/directory/dir-med/dirmedindex_brief.php%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www.usnews.com/usnews/edu/grad/directory/dir-med/dirmedindex_brief.php&lt;/a&gt;)&lt;/p>

<p>Mount Sinai Rank 30, MCAT 33 (11), New York City;
SUNY Upstate (Syracuse) Rank, No, MCAT 29.4 (9.8), Upstate;
SUNY University Buffalo: Rank No, MCAT 29.1 (9.7), Upstate;</p>

<p>Suny Stony Brook: Rank 50, MCAT 32.1 (10.7), Suburb of New York;</p>

<p>The assureance program is started at the end of Sophomore year, just 1 year or less away from regular medical school competitions. Stony Brook School of Medicine looks not a sure thing for an average Columbia Premed Student.</p>

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<p>hold on....whats ur point here??</p>

<p>This early assurance program is just for those students who want to get it out of the way and i dont think its a "sure thing" either....you have to apply to these things as well. No acceptance is a "sure thing" when you go to any college and it all depends on your numbers...I dont think this is a fair reason to consider Stony Brook better than columbia, because chances are, if you do well etc. you will get in somewhere better than Stony Brook through the regular premed process during junior year.</p>

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<p>William,</p>

<p>I think what you're noticing is that any school that offers any kind of "fast-track" tends to be a school that has an agenda of some kind - usually, they're trying to attract kids that are overqualified for their school but want some kind of early assurance.</p>

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<p>I mean the chances of an average Columbia Premed Student not doing well ones.</p>

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<p>What I mean is that you can't use this early assurance program to prove... well, anything... because these early assurance programs are trying to "lock up" overqualified kids early. (Even if it's not binding, the kids are more likely not to push as hard during the application process.)</p>

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<p>bluedevilmike ,</p>

<p>Supposed as an average Columbia PreMed student, one have a 55% probability to get into a medical school better than Stony (but I don't see any statistics to support it), Question is: are you willing to take a risk of 45% probability of lower rank schools or going no where against the acceptance by Stony Brook now for students determining to be doctors?</p>

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<p>There is no right answer to that question, william.</p>

<p>Some students are more risk-averse, and would not be willing to take that tradeoff. Some students would be willing to take the risk.</p>

<p>It depends on how much they value the "prestige" of the medical school, how much they value going to medical school at all, etc.</p>

<p>There is no correct answer - I do not mean to imply one, and neither should you.</p>