Comments/suggestions on my college list?

<p>Your list is good but considering your math classes (self study for calc BC is impressive and should definitively be mentioned) and general application criteria, I think you should absolutely apply to Harvey Mudd (they’re very supportive of women scientists and I’m sure you’d thrive there) and MIT.
<a href=“http://www.math.hmc.edu/[/url]”>http://www.math.hmc.edu/&lt;/a&gt;
I understand the cost issue but when colleges really, really want someone (ie a young woman who has a gift for math) they may find ways. Not always but often so it’s worth a try.</p>

<p>To increase your odds look at schools outside your geographical area (500+ mi away).</p>

<p>If you can pull A’s in these math classes at college, it’ll trump your AP scores. Alternatively, in addition to your math classes you could take one gen ed college class in the social sciences or humanities and get an A in it. To be better for you it’d have to be a seminar-style class so that you could get a recommendation from the professor that would show your 3 on the AP test does not reflect on your ability to think critically outside your specialty field.</p>

<p>Regarding ECs, you’re in a particular category due to your family situation and gift for math that makes you enroll at a university rather than high school. You <em>could</em> conceivably try to get involved in a club at your DE university, if only the math club or even the math honors society or something (not sure if it’s possible but it’s worth asking.) As a DE student you should be allowed to participate in most activities at your college. However due to your special gift for math, your (very relative) lack of ECs would not play against you as much as for others.</p>

<p>However don’t assume that, just because a university has a grad program and a LAC doesn’t, that the classes will necessarily be more advanced at the university.
Some LACs essentially offer grad-level classes to juniors and seniors because their 1st and 2nd year classes are more advanced and faster paced.
At some schools, students start with Calc I. At others, they start at Precalc because most students have done Algebra 2 only and only in some cases a course higher than that. At other schools, almost everyone’s done Calc BC and starts at Calc III except that in these schools what is Calc III elsewhere is just called Calc II. The pace can be different too from school to school (cf. the calc sequence done in 3 semesters, but can be found in 2.) </p>

<p>In short, your work on a college list is not finished yet :smiley: since it means going to each school’s math dept page and looking at their course offerings, then emailing the dept. chair to let them know what classes you’ll be taking senior yearas DE and what would your freshman sequence would be at their school, then point out 2-3 advanced classes that look interesting and ask how often they’re offered (every year, every other year, less than that?)
You can be SURE that at many LACs this will ring a sweet bell in the Department Chair’s ear (“we want this student”) which can only help :slight_smile: if you eventually decide to apply.
If you like the answer regarding the advanced classes, look into the merit aid + email about it to the relevant person, asking also if they require non custodial parent information. Don’t forget to email back to ask the dept chair whether there is merit aid for math students (= “showing interest”, #2).
Then get into the Common Data Set and/or email to ask whether being first gen is taken into account in the admission process. If yes, it will boost your odds. (Do this for every school on your list, BTW).
This should produce a list of 3-5 LACs to which you can apply which offer interesting aid and have the math offerings that would “fit” your needs.</p>

<p>You could also make a thread titled “which LACs in the top 100 have the best math programs” and schools ranked 40-75 would be likely to offer merit aid and admit you so you would look at their math program opportunity.</p>

<p>Oxford/Cambridge: it’s $22,000/year for tuition for math, and if you score high on their special tests and interviews you CAN get scholarships (for internationals, they’re based on merit only). However the Further Math A Level is pretty advanced, so you’d have to be further than that and show “merit” at a higher level than what you’d have to show in the US - cf.
[A</a> & AS Level Mathematics - Further](<a href=“Cambridge International AS & A Level subjects”>Cambridge International AS & A Level subjects)
[AQA</a> | Mathematics | A-level | Further Mathematics](<a href=“http://www.aqa.org.uk/subjects/mathematics/a-level/further-mathematics-6360]AQA”>http://www.aqa.org.uk/subjects/mathematics/a-level/further-mathematics-6360)
[Further</a> Mathematics - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia](<a href=“http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Further_Mathematics]Further”>Further Mathematics - Wikipedia)
Ex. of admission odds at Cambridge:
[Application</a> statistics](<a href=“Study at Cambridge | University of Cambridge”>Study at Cambridge | University of Cambridge)
You’d do math only and all the time so it depends if you want a well-rounded education or not. Also, I agree with ClassicRockerDad that the AP scores will hurt you since they want 3-5 5s.</p>

<p>Don’t know if you know that but it may be fun for you
<a href=“http://chmmc.caltech.edu/[/url]”>http://chmmc.caltech.edu/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p>Revised list (took out Rochester and UNC - Chapel Hill):</p>

<p>Stanford
University of Chicago EA
University of Michigan EA
Vanderbilt (reach, added because they don’t consider non-custodial assets and don’t require a supplement essay)</p>

<p>UIUC
Brandeis
Case Western EA </p>

<p>Northeastern (safety?)
Ohio State </p>

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<p>I’m taking a philosophy class (Intro to Ethics). There are only 40 students but it’s not actually labeled as a seminar. </p>

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<p>I probably will join a club there, but I figured I wouldn’t be in it long enough to even bother writing it down? It would only be a couple months before I submitted my college apps. </p>

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<p>I’m not a genius or anything…I just like math and my school’s lenient policies have allowed me to accelerate to the point of absurdity. The last four courses I said I’m taking aren’t scheduled yet and are dependent mostly on how much I like the first three and how well I do in them.
I don’t like it when colleges have five million enforced distribution requirements (which I suppose is one of the drawbacks of LACs), but I don’t intend to study just one subject when I actually get to college.</p>

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<p>Well the UChicago core is just that. You should investigate it carefully, though it’s a great school for math. </p>

<p>And you took out Rochester, which I think you should keep. It’s one of the few schools that has the honors calculus (the theoretical version), which is a great way to start a math program. I don’t think Northeastern is nearly as strong of a school academically, and it’s also a much more preprofessional school. Rochester is like a liberal arts college, offers good merit aid, but has a graduate program so that you have access to the advanced classes.</p>

<p>and Rochester does not have ANY forced distribution requirements, except one semester of writing.</p>

<p>Show strong interest in Case and Rochester if you apply.</p>

<p>I guess I’ll add Rochester back, then. </p>

<p>I’m not sure if I should keep Northeastern. The National Merit Finalist scholarship is really cool, but it would probably cost about the same as Ohio State (because of room and board) and I don’t know if it’s a better school. </p>

<p>As far as demonstrating interest, I’ll definitely be visiting Case and probably Rochester and Ohio State too. Maybe even Michigan, but the others are too far away. I’ll try to do alumni interviews when possible. </p>

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<p>I don’t have a snowflake’s chance in hell at MIT.
As far as Harvey Mudd, I’m concerned about the fact that I haven’t really done much in areas of STEM besides math. (Their STEM distribution requirements seem pretty extensive.) I’ve never done any computer programming, and it seems like most people who go there have been doing that since they were like three years old.
And financial aid, but I suppose I could apply and see what they give me.</p>

<p>I think you underestimate your chances at MIT. Will they reject you? Probably. That’s a simple numbers game. However you have most of the qualifications to get in, especially if you’re taking college level math classes next year. </p>

<p>I’d keep MIT as a reach. If you get in and can afford it, wonderful. If not, you have one of the best math schools in the country in your backyard.</p>

<p>St Olaf has a good math program and Honors Calc too, but if you take all your math classes I don’t know if it’d offer enough math classes for you. Math majors tend to begin in Honors Calc II and those with a 5 in Calc BC or equivalent DE classes start in Linear Algebra.
[Math</a> - MSCS-Web](<a href=“http://www.stolaf.edu/depts/math/]Math”>http://www.stolaf.edu/depts/math/)
[Math</a> Major - MSCS-Web](<a href=“http://www.stolaf.edu/depts/mscs/Math_Major]Math”>http://www.stolaf.edu/depts/mscs/Math_Major)
In the same town, higher USNWR ranking and higher caliber students:
<a href=“https://apps.carleton.edu/curricular/math/[/url]”>https://apps.carleton.edu/curricular/math/&lt;/a&gt;
<a href=“https://apps.carleton.edu/curricular/math/major/[/url]”>https://apps.carleton.edu/curricular/math/major/&lt;/a&gt;
I don’t know how either one rates in terms of gen ed requirements.
However you’d have a definite shot at merit money at St Olaf (admission to Carleton is as competitive as to Bowdoin etc)
(Look at that link from the math dept at Harvey Mudd :stuck_out_tongue: because seriously you’d have a shot, you’d be supported, there’s no shortage of math classes, and their liberal arts classes are strong too. They’ve got a special CS class for people who have NEVER tried or done anything with CS and other sections for those in CS camps etc. Heard that on NPR the other day :stuck_out_tongue:
<a href=“How One College Is Closing The Computer Science Gender Gap : All Tech Considered : NPR”>How One College Is Closing The Computer Science Gender Gap : All Tech Considered : NPR; )</p>

<p>I think that Amherst, Williams, Wesleyan, Brown, don’t have many general education requirement and no core curriculum.</p>

<p>How is Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute?
Do they give good merit aid? Would they be overly focused on applied math?</p>

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<p>Every single one of the 24 people listed on the mathematics faculty page is an applied mathematician. Applied math isn’t a bad thing, it might be a good thing if that’s what you like (these people do).</p>

<p>I’m not sure this question will ever become relevant, but if Case is really as generous with their merit aid as people say and I end up having to choose between Case and Ohio State, which would be better for math?</p>

<p>Looks like no losing choice there.</p>