Community College to Brown?

Transfer Students
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<p>Hi, I posted in the Chances thread but I didn't get many replies...so here it is again.
I would really appreciate some advice, and answers to my questions</p>

<p>I graduated HS Jun 2008, took a year off (internship and work for a few months, and few months of relaxing before college , and heading off to community college this fall.</p>

<p>I'm taking summer courses for my major (classical civ) @ a local UC (UCLA) b/c my CC (or CC's in general) don't offer courses for my major. I'm currently pulling of a high A in one, and an A/B borderline in the other.</p>

<p>With my AP credit and summer course credit, I would be able to obtain an AA in one year so I would be submitting apps this winter.</p>

<p>My HS GPA: 3.65
SAT: CR:800 M:730 W:600 (took in HS)
SAT2: 790 (Korean), 720 (US History), 700 (Math 2), 700 (Lit)
AP's a got 3's in US History, World History, European History, English Lang
But I took World and English w/o taking AP classes
EC's: few clubs, couple internships, and a bit of work and volunteering</p>

<p>My main goal is to transfer to Brown or other small colleges strong in classics (strong in classical civ, not that interested in greek/latin), and in a small city/suburban location.</p>

<p>So here are my questions:</p>

<p>1) should I retake my SAT with the purpose of raising my writing score?
2) what are my chances for brown if my CC GPA is in the 3.7-4.0 range? Is it even worth applying to from a CC?
3) can you recommend other colleges similar to brown / that meet my criteria? I'm looking mainly for reach/match schools b/c i already have several safety schools.
4) i'm going to complete the CC's honors program, but does that help in transferring to private colleges? or just the UC's? should i just take regular courses for a higher gpa?</p>

<p>Thanks:)</p>

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<p>any feedback would be much appreciated…</p>

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<p>if you can keep your grades up, i think you could have shot. the problem with applying to ivies is that you never know what’s going to happen because they turn down many qualified applicants each cycle. you should definitely apply, but apply to other places as well because as i said, you never know with the ivies.</p>

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<p>1) I don’t think you can retake the SAT after you start college for any benefit for the transfer process.
2) I believe it’s possible to get it, but it will be really competitive. Probably closer to the 4.0 would be better. Also, consider that Brown admits on a need-aware basis for transfers (I think), meaning that if you don’t apply for aid, you’ll be much more likely to make it in since they’ll be expecting full room and board and tuition from you.
3) I don’t know
4) Taking the most rigorous course-work available will help, I believe.</p>

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<p>thanks ironicallyunsure and thanks dshinka for answering all my questions, you were the only one in my two posts to do so :)</p>

<p>its kinda frustrating because my counselor at my ccc knows A LOT about transferring to colleges in california, bt not too much about oos colleges (she said there was “a school good for pre-med in new orleans called st.john, no i think it was john hopkins”…phew)</p>

<p>does anyone know about the priority consideration agreement for honors/scholars students with pomona college?</p>

<p>thanks!</p>

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<p>1. If you have the time and believe you can fit it in with your studies and ECs, I would definitely retake the SAT. Yes, the SAT is not a dominant criteria for transfer admissions, but it is still a criteria. Brown, especially, is an Ivy League school. You will definitely want to raise that writing score.</p>

<p>2. If you’re GPA is 3.8+, you’re already “competitive.” It is definitely worth applying even if you are from a CC, remember you miss 100% of the shots you don’t take. But as was mentioned earlier, try to keep your GPA as close to a 4.0 as possible.</p>

<p>3. Claremount Colleges, Swarthmore, Bowdoin, Grinnell, Middlebury, and ofc the crapshoots, Amherst, Williams.</p>

<p>4. As dshinka said, completing the most rigorous coursework will definitely be a plus, especially if you can get your dean to affirm the difficulty of your courseload.</p>

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<p>

Swarthmore and Claremont McKenna are a little easier to get into as a transfer than Brown.</p>

<p>Pomona and Middlebury are roughly as difficult as Brown.</p>

<p>Bowdoin, Grinnell, Amherst, and Williams are significantly more difficult to get into than Brown.</p>

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<p>thanks super_ramga!
I guess I’ll prepare for the SATs again…:frowning: Would it be bad if my CR or Math scores dropped? because I want prepare solely for my the writing section.</p>

<p>thanks for posting again IBclass06 haha I really appreciate all the help you’ve given me.
I def want to apply to CMC and Pomona, and initially thought about Amherst and Williams, but if they’re harder to get into than Brown…naw Brown’s already like Mt. Everest to me. </p>

<p>Swarthmore would be awesome too but, I heard it was really intellectual. I mean I love the subject I would be majoring in, but I would really prefer the laid-back atmosphere of Brown. How come Swarthmore isn’t on-par with Amherst and Williams in terms of selectivity?</p>

<p>Thanks again everyone :)</p>

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<p>ur very competive, you;ll get in</p>

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<ol>
<li>no</li>
<li>it’s worth it, but, no guarantee</li>
<li> Wesleyan is probably the LAC most like Brown in terms of vibe (small New England city, liberal students, innovative curriculum.) And, it accepts about 50 transfer students a year.</li>
<li>go for the honors courses.</li>
</ol>

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<p>thx i’ll def look at wesleyan.</p>

<p>im getting mixed answers about retaking the SATs…i’m fairly confident i can raise my score up to the 2230-2330 range. i’m mainly concerned about my writing score though since it is below the 25% range of Brown students and since i’m applying as a sophomore, it’d be weighed a bit more…</p>

<p>can you guys give me reasons to take/not take? Super_Ramga gave me reasons for ‘to take’.
btw i have time to study for the SATs (in the summer) so thats not a factor…but i would much rather not have to take it if it doesn’t help me much</p>

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<p>the fact is, your high school GPA and S.A.T.s are phenomenal,
2 years at a community college with a 3.6 average will get u in even into Columbia, Brown, UPENN, Harvard and Princeton don’t except transfers</p>

<p>i had a friend who is in the similar situation as u
he had a 3.3 GPA in high school
and his S.A.T.'s were 1820
hes white
and he got into Cornell and Brown as a transfer @ Rockland Community College</p>

<p>u have will get into because first ur #'s are great
ur very competitive
and ur a minority in a sense</p>

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<p>his GPA was a 3.5 and over by the way</p>

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<p>retake them if you have time to burn, just realize the purpose of the SATs are to prove you can do college level work – which you’ve already done. It’s not like anyone puts the SAT scores of their transfer students up on their website.</p>

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<p>THANK U
JOHN WESLEY
FOR ONCE WE HAVE SOMEONE WHO KNOWS WHAT HES TALKING ABOUT</p>

<p>EVEN though ur s.a.t’s are high…
if u have over 3.5 college gpa
there will be lttle hardly any emphasis on the S.A.T. because S.A.T. supposedly measures ur college success…
u mastered it
kick ass
then apply for Yale</p>

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<p>alrite thanks, i don’t think i want to retake them then haha.
one thing though…i’ll be applying as a sophomore to private colleges and as a junior to UC’s.</p>

<p>and just a quick question…why am i considered to be a minority haha? i mean i guess i am, but i don’t think being asian helps…right?</p>

<p>thanks for all your help, i feel i have a better sense of direction now :)</p>