<p>Im kind of a noob to this, anyone know of these programs for engineering? And how hard is it to get in? Is there even such a thing lol?</p>
<p>Four years? I've heard of five years...</p>
<p>I have never heard of completing an MS in engineering in 4 years.</p>
<p>I know someone who did it in 4 years. He overloaded on credits pretty much every semester. This was not recommended by anybody though; you will not see any program out there that advertises this.</p>
<p>/hijack</p>
<p>What about coming into college with 30 credits (pretty much all freshman gen eds) from AP? Is it possible to do it then without overloading?</p>
<p>I guess that would be possible as long as there aren't any prereq problems with the courses you're taking your first year.</p>
<p>Carl Sagan did a 6 year Ph.D....</p>
<p>A lot of engineering programs are pretty tough to complete early due to prerequisites on classes. Where I go to school it would be pretty much impossible because you cannot begin your senior design project until you've done all your major courses prior to that year and because of prereqs you really can't graduate earlier than 4 years.</p>
<p>Heard of five years as the fastest with 6 years as the average. So nope, unless you graduate in 2 years for a bachelor.</p>
<p>Oh ok thanks for the answers, any links for the ones that are 6 years??</p>
<p>Depending on the school, you can get a separate BS and MS in 4+1 years. All of the MS programs that I applied to had recommended curricula that lasted 2 semesters (30 credits).</p>
<p>Doing a BS and MS in 6 years does not require a special program. It's the norm if you're doing a thesis.</p>
<p>Lots of schools offer combined BS/MS programs that run five years; I think you usually also spend one summer doing research at the school to cover some requirements that way.</p>
<p>One of my friends did manage to do the BS/MS program at my undergrad in four years, but she was one of those crazy smart people, so it's a bit of an exception.</p>
<p>OP, what's the rush?</p>
<p>The Cooper Union has an awesome 5-year B.S./M.S. program. However, it's one of the toughest in the country.</p>
<p>As mentioned already you don't need a special program to get a BS/MS in 5 years, although you'll have to push yourself pretty hard to get the MS in a year. One thing though: You might look for schools that allow some graduate courses taken as an undergrad to count towards both degrees. I sorry I can't be more specific, but I THINK I've seen examples of programs that have some version of that policy.</p>
<p>Oh ok thanks guys. If I do intend on doing this, should I contact the counselors at the college I am going to. Also, how will career placement be worked out? During the year I do my MS or during my last year of undergraduate?</p>
<p>You'll be looking for jobs during your last year at school.</p>
<p>You could always try to get an internship in the summers prior to graduating with a company you'd like to work with afterwords. It would be a good foot in the door, and if you like the company after working there for a few months (and they like you), a decent job would be much easier to get than doing random interviews at career fairs.</p>
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If I do intend on doing this, should I contact the counselors at the college I am going to.
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It really depends on your college and your MS degree. I was able to do a 4 year BS at one school, and go to a different one and get a MS without any transfer of credits. That's without a thesis. If the MS degree you're seeking is one with a thesis, you can still do a BS/MS in 5 years but you'd probably have to overload on courses during your undergrad.</p>
<p>It's too soon to tell your advisor about this. You probably won't get one in your major until your sophomore year usually. Secondly, if you're staying at the same school for a MS, there's still usually a minimum GPA requirement, which is typically 3.0. Do not take that as a given that you'll get that.</p>
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Also, how will career placement be worked out? During the year I do my MS or during my last year of undergraduate?
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I might be wrong on this, but I get the impression from the phrasing of your question that you think the school does it for you. Pretty much 95% of the effort comes when it comes to job hunting comes from the individual and not the school. Your school's career center will have career fairs and may help you review your resume, but it's not like high school where they walk you through the entire process. You do everything on your own. So, you look for a job whenever you want to look for a job.</p>
<p>You might want to look for a job for after your undergrad and work full-time while going to school part-time. You might want to stay in school full-time until after you get your MS. It's up to you. </p>
<p>The people you meet at your undergrad institution can still be pretty influential in your job search even if you get a graduate degree. Don't underestimate what connections can do for you.</p>
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You could always try to get an internship in the summers prior to graduating with a company you'd like to work with afterwords. It would be a good foot in the door, and if you like the company after working there for a few months (and they like you), a decent job would be much easier to get than doing random interviews at career fairs.
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That's good advice. Follow it.</p>
<p>Thanks for the help guys, very helpful!</p>