<p>Looking for more schools like Ave Maria University with pre-medical programs along with option for a double major in theology. Prefer small-medium sized. I know there isn't many but I only know of that one and Franciscan University which I don't think is as conservative as Ave Maria. Thanks in advance.</p>
<p>University of Dallas</p>
<p>Aren't all Roman Catholic Colleges conservative!?</p>
<p>I wish. I think you'd have to compare Ave Maria to some of the more liberal jesuit schools to see what I mean. <a href="http://www.avemaria.edu/reslifepolicies%5B/url%5D">http://www.avemaria.edu/reslifepolicies</a></p>
<p>University of Dallas? Last I would have expected to be honest, lol. I will be looking into that one. But how large is it?</p>
<p>Why would anyone chose to attend a school like that? I'm reading the housing policy, and some of these things seem like you could just as easily just chose to avoid them in a normal school. Yay for limited inter-gender interaction!</p>
<p>???? O_o I don't see anything wrong with wanting to attend a school "like that".</p>
<p>I don't consider it limited by any means. Their policies support my moral values and gives me less stuff to stress about in already stressful years in my life. It's going to be my "home" for 4 years. And I like to feel safe and comfortable at home.</p>
<p>Someone would choose to attend Ave Maria for probably the same reasons that you chose the school that you attend -- because it is the school that was the "best fit" for you in meeting your academic, social, and financial needs.</p>
<p>Yes, you can avoid some of "those things" at a "normal school," but at many schools, students of a more conservative bent would be in a definite minority and would be subject to ridicule. I can certainly see how they would be more comfortable at a school where most, if not all, of the students share similar religious and moral beliefs.</p>
<p>Without addressing my opinions on those reasons, I'll just say the desire to be around like minded individuals was not factored into my choice of schools.</p>
<p>Thanks worried_mom. A lot of factors have gone into my choosing a school. Ave Maria fits all the way around for me (academic, financial, social, location, and more). I'd just like to have more than 1 school to apply to in order to keep my options open.</p>
<p>There's a lot of schools out there arbiter, so narrowing them down is a good idea. =)</p>
<p>Have you looked at the Newman guide? Its a book put out that has different suggestions for more conservative catholic colleges. They put them into 3 categories - </p>
<p>The "Joyfully Catholic" colleges are: Christendom College, The College of Saint Thomas More, Franciscan University of Steubenville, Magdalen College, Thomas Aquinas College, The Thomas More College of Liberal Arts, University of Dallas, and the University of St. Thomas (Houston, TX.).</p>
<p>The "Born from the Crisis" colleges are: Ave Maria University, Holy Apostles College & Seminary, John Paul the Great Catholic University; Our Lady Seat of Wisdom Academy, Southern Catholic College and Wyoming Catholic College.</p>
<p>The "Fighting the Tide" colleges are: Aquinas College (Nashville, TN.), Belmont Abbey College, Benedictine College, The Catholic University of America, DeSales University, Mount St. Mary's University and St. Gregory's University.</p>
<p>irishgal,</p>
<p>Yesterday, on another thread, the OP said she is 21 years of age, did not graduate high school, would not take the GED because it was "belittling," has no community college course credits because the classes would be too "boring," and wants a college that will admit her based on her "potential" and IQ test score. All of the schools in the Newman guide have minimum academic admissions requirements that the OP does not meet and considers beneath her.</p>
<p>I'm under the impression that if one school accepts ACT scores and a detailed summary of home study along with recommendations then I'm fine thank you (this would be Ave Maria =) ). Sorry I offended you with disagreeing with your response, you still have yet to post a helpful response.</p>
<p>Adding Thomas Aquinas to the list, they sound great too. I've heard of them before actually and have spoken with someone there. Don't know how I forgot them, d'oh.</p>
<p>I'm guessing that's the full list? Just wondering.</p>
<p>I'm surprised no one has mentioned Notre Dame. It's definitely one of the most conservative top schools out there. </p>
<p>And if you're looking for a warm weathered school, look at Biola. It's not Catholic, but it's conservative Christian (non-denomonational, I think). Maybe Point Loma too. I have friends at both who adore the schools.</p>
<p>Bob Jones is one of the most conservative schools on the map.</p>
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<h2>Aren't all Roman Catholic Colleges conservative!?</h2>
<p>Absolutely not. A lot of them are liberal and many faithful Catholics are wondering why on earth the Cardinal or even the Pope are allowing these schools to bear the name Catholic.</p>
<p>This is just one example of a Catholic School that is as uncatholic in it's character as you can imagine :</p>
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<h2>Bob Jones is one of the most conservative schools on the map.</h2>
<p>It's not Roman Catholic.</p>
<p>Post #10 says it all. One College that was not mentioned is the College of the Holy Cross in Massachusetts.</p>
<p>Several famous conservative personalities are graduates of Holy Cross.</p>
<p>The most famous is of course Justice Clarence Thomas.</p>
<p>The second most famous are Bob Casey, Sr., Pennsylvania governor, Bob Casey, Jr., his son, Pennsylvania treasurer and U.S. Senator ( both Democrats but both pro-life -- indicating the school hs ingrained the idea of the sanctity of the life of the unborn in them ).</p>
<p>Fr. Paul Scalia is the 3rd one. He is the son of the other conservative justice --- Antonin Scalia.</p>
<p>I promised myself I would not post on any more threads about Catholic colleges because the discussion of which schools are "truly" Catholic is upsetting to me. </p>
<p>But it is also upsetting to see someone say, "Aren't all Catholic colleges conservative?" </p>
<p>The answer to that is no, not as conservative as you might think and certainly not doctrinaire (requiring you to be Catholic, to go to Mass, to take classes taught only from a Catholic perspective, or what have you.) I would encourage more students to particularly check out the Jesuit schools, which come in all sizes, are all over the country, and are at different selectivity levels. They are excellent schools and provide atmospheres open to debate and discussion. They obviously do not fall on the far side of the liberal spectrum, but neither do many non-Catholic schools.</p>
<p>Joejitsu -- You do realize that Holy Cross is Jesuit, and Jesuit schools are often called to task by very conservative Catholics. (Please don't call them "faithful" Catholics. Many of us are faithful Catholics who do not agree with "disciplining" our institutions of higher learning.)</p>
<p>To the OP -- the conservative schools are there if you want them. And that's a good thing.</p>
<p>Bob Jones is not Catholic. It is Fundamentalist Christian.</p>
<p>An interesting thread to say the least. I know I am a johnny come lately, but I was wondering where the OP ended up applying and if she got in? Ava? You there?</p>
<p>To dbwes: your comments were very erudite, factual and forthright. I completely agree with you. Lots of non catholics misjudge us as doctrinaire conservatives or narrow minded....and many lump us in with the evangelicals with a condescending tone. Sad. </p>
<p>There are many Catholic Colleges in the United States...even in the Deep South like Mississippi and Alabama and Georgia and Louisiana. Not all Catholic Colleges are the same. Different sizes, different focus, different student body, different locations and campuses (urban or rural or country club like). Their politics varies dramatically as well: both faculty and student body. Even among the mighty Jesuit colleges there is a great diversity of thought and experience. BC is not Georgetown is not Holy Cross is not Fordham is not St. Louis University is not Loyola Chicago is not Santa Clara is not Seattle University is not Xavier (Cincinnati) etc. </p>
<p>Also there is Providence (Dominican), Villanova (Augustinians) and Notre Dame (Holy Cross Fathers). </p>
<p>Then there is Spring Hill College ...a very old Catholic College in Mobile Alabama. </p>
<p>Cristendom and Ave Maria are the new kids on the Catholic block and have yet, it seems to me, to establish their own academic reputation. But that will come later. They are both highly conservative and more doctrinaire by design. Not that there is anything wrong with that....its just unique and for special kids who have that interest.</p>
<p>Franciscan enjoys a good reputation.</p>
<p>But look in the Barrons directory for each state and you will find a lot of little colleges that may appeal to you (not the OP, as she has obviously made her choice already....but "you" generically). </p>
<p>And dont forget little John Carroll College in Cleveland....a fine Jesuit School that Tim Russert attended and has an excellent accounting program I hear.</p>
<p>Good luck.</p>
<p>Oh and there is Marist (Marist Brothers) and Manhattan College (Christian Brothers) in New York. Both fine schools. Manhattan College is famous for math majors and science majors. Strong programs I hear. Down the street from Fordham.</p>