<p>It’s a degree in management.</p>
<p>If the OP is still looking for answers:</p>
<p>At my former HS, no one got into Cornell CoE. We had people get into Caltech, Duke, Stanford, MIT, CMU, Berkeley, Yale, and others that were waitlisted/rejected at Cornell CoE (including myself :(). However, there were about a dozen or so CAS acceptances. These, to me, were the average, run of the mill smart people (with a couple exceptions). Worked hard, got decent grades (B+ to A-) in decent to hard classes, did some volunteering and other ECs, but nothing special. I have to think that if all of these CoE applicants were to apply into CAS, some would be accepted. </p>
<p>So, in terms of my former HS, it was harder to get into CoE than CAS. But maybe this was just an odd year, or CoE simply hates my HS.</p>
<p>Stanford, MIT, Caltech, and Yale are harder to get into than Cornell CoE not sure what happened at your high school GammaGrozza</p>
<p>CoE loves high M/S grades, SAT scores, and a no-nonsense, straightforward essay about your goals with engineering. That’s what I think got me in. My History and English grades had multiple B’s, and my extracurriculars were all music based, nothing involving engineering or science.</p>
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<p>It can be done, but it is a huge pain. A couple of my friends went through the internal transfer division. You really need to be able to demonstrate that transferring is truly the way to go, and that you will succeed at your new college. People usually try to stick with what they started with, unless they really hate it. If I remember correctly there a few people on CC who have transferred within Cornell to different colleges. Maybe you could start a new thread to get a better feel for how internal transfers work?</p>
<p>Wow thanks EVERYBODY for the help. And yes, I will never want you guys to quit posting on this thread. I am ALWAYS looking for answers, even to questions I haven’t asked :)</p>
<p>How competitive is admission into the Hotel School compared to CAS or CoE?</p>
<p>And you guys have convinced me well enough that the CoE is much self-selected and definitely not a fit for me. I have good stats, but I’m not in any position to be pulling a 2250+ SAT and my one B so far (rising junior) was in a math class freshman year. And I don’t have much demonstrated love for engineering.</p>
<p>Thanks GammaGrozza for the real-life example! Although it does seem a bit odd…Anyways, just for my own reference, what type of high school did you go to? Was it competitive or not? What about public or private? And what type of SAT did the Cornell CAS admits get in comparison with the other stellar schools you mentioned (all of which I am considering and would love more information about)…</p>
<p>And yes Tchaikovsky I think i will do that…</p>
<p>For the record I do not believe I would have been accepted had I applied to CAS, though there is no way to know this for sure. I’m currently in the CoE and will be(or is it already am?) a sophomore when school starts.</p>
<p>Prism, were you a math/science-oriented guy in high school and did you demonstrate (in EC’s and essays) a love of engineering? How were your SAT’s? You may not think you would have gotten into CAS only because you didn’t do much beyond math and science in high school, but were exceptional at it, or your natural passion is just engineering…</p>
<p>Did you actually apply just based on chance?</p>
<p>bump…</p>
<p>Would greatly appreciate others’ takes on the original question…</p>
<p>I believe engineering is harder to get into. </p>
<p>My sister was in engineering and wanted out. It was difficult. She was, however, told that if you can get into engineering you can get into any of the colleges</p>
<p>I’m pretty sure I remember seeing that Eng. had the highest acceptance rate though. </p>
<p>Hm… maybe I was looking at the chart for females.</p>
<p>Yeah but the whole debate is that Engineering has a higher acceptance rate than the other colleges, but it is mostly self-selected and the kids that get in there truly WANT to do it more than anything…</p>
<p>Eh, I think it’s mostly just kids with high test scores and seemingly who have an interest in science and engineering in your essay.</p>
<p>I would advise you not let your future career goals discourage you from considering the engineering school. Many graduates of the engineering school end up with great jobs that are non-technical. If anything, engineering graduates might have a slight advantage in that they are viewed as more qualified for a variety of positions, at least in the eyes of some employers.</p>
<p>On the flip side, I have seen cases where CAS graduates end up with technical jobs, and they seem to do very well there as well.</p>
<p>Whether you ultimately apply to CAS or the engineering school, you are still applying to a great university. One reason why I chose to attend Cornell over Columbia years ago was because I was unsure of how strongly I felt about studying engineering, and I wanted to be able to transfer internally if I wanted out. Fortunately I stuck it out, but I think I could’ve transferred successfully into CAS had I tried; at Columbia I’m not sure whether that would’ve been possible.</p>
<p>Good luck to you.</p>
<p>Thank you Doby. What you are saying is exactly why I was thinking of choosing the engineering school…</p>
<p>Do you know, however, if the Engineering school or CAS is more difficult to gain acceptance to?</p>
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<p>Again, it can’t conclusively be said that one is more selective than the other. It will depend on how well admissions officers think you fit their college.</p>
<p>Okay for someone that isn’t a nationally recognized math and science student and DOES NOT convey much interest of engineering and science in the essays. All else being equal, is CAS easier to gain admission to than Engineering school?</p>
<p>You really need to stop asking the same question over and over again. Everyone here has explained multiple times that it depends on your app, and not a few specific details, but the app as a whole. Some people you just described (nationally recognized m/s student, etc.) will get accepted to CAS, others will go to Engineering. Some will get denied from both. If you just want a straight answer from percentage data, then CAS has a lower chance of gaining acceptance to than Engineering, end of story.</p>
<p>It really depends on the person. The colleges want to find a good FIT in their applicants. Someone they hope will do well in college and project a positive image of Cornell later in life at their job and workplace (not Andy Bernard). If you have no interest in engineering, then I would suggest not to apply because you’ll experience a lot of pain in your freshman calc and physics classes because you aren’t really interested in them. This would hurt your GPA and later, your chances for a job or grad school. I know many people you switched out of engineering after a semester of two because they didn’t particularly like the subject material and weren’t doing very well in their classes.</p>
<p>Although CAS has lower acceptance rates, if you apply primarily for liberal arts, then the classes you choose will be more to your liking and you may do better. </p>
<p>I would not apply for engineering just because it has higher acceptance rates or because it’s “easier to get into”.</p>
<p>488140, i’d love to know the answer to your question as well. i wonder, what is the average GPA/SAT acceptance rate for the CAS? would it be close to 4.0 or closer to 3.7? i mean, i hear that Cornell is the easiest Ivy but the problem is Cornell is split into SEVEN colleges! i’d love to know the strengths of the students accepted to CAS because that is where i plan on applying.</p>