<p>Do the consider OOS applicants equally to NY residents?</p>
<p>I think you're referring to out of state applicants? Well, technically, they're not supposed to have quotas...</p>
<p>They used to accept lots of kids from NY and out-of-staters got the disadvantage. I hear that that isnt the case anymore..but who knows what really goes on in the adcom offices. I've heard a mix of things on this site, from the difference in admission preference isnt noticeable anymore because absolutely everyone in NY applies trying to get the in-state advantage to people flat out sayin no one gets any advantage. I dont know the exact story on it tho.</p>
<p>THERE IS NO DAMN IN-STATE ADVANTAGE!</p>
<p>God people Cornell gets money from the state to subsidize tuition for NY Residents.</p>
<p>i'd even argue that the state would benefit from having more out-of- state residents enrolled in the college. for wouldn't the state be paying less to cornell?</p>
<p>As Dave Price said, in ILR, you'll meet everyone... from Nassau and Suffolk County.</p>
<p>myself included ;)</p>
<p>haha, Im just asking if its harder to get in if you are out of state since I already have 2 percent chance of getting in to ILR.</p>
<p>everyone has an equal chance of acceptance in regards to geographic location.</p>
<p>location alone is not an incentive...the only way to make it be an incentive is if you write why your location adds to your profile and how it's perfect for the program you are applying to...</p>
<p>i come from a working class town so this gave me an incentive to apply for ILR...</p>
<p>"everyone has an equal chance of acceptance in regards to geographic location."</p>
<p>That's only true to an extent. If you are from an impoverished town in upstate NY, you're a bit more likely to get in over someone with the same test scores and "stats" who hails from Great Neck or Garrison. Of course it is more complicated than that, because it is about MUCH more than numbers, but the fact that the adcoms look for people who have really "taken advantage of their surroundings" means that a truly outstanding student from the ultra-rich suburbs generally isn't quite as deserving of admission as a truly outstanding student who is the first person from their school in 15 years to even apply to an Ivy.</p>
<p>"If you are from an impoverished town in upstate NY, you're a bit more likely to get in over someone with the same test scores and "stats" who hails from Great Neck or Garrison."</p>
<p>thats not true. great neck is a really good, rigorous school district. generally cornell takes bigger percentage of kids from those types of schools and also the nyc feeder schools.</p>
<p>Let's just say it is too complicated of an issue to generalize about. Also, there are very few "truly outstanding" students, so in the sense of good students in general, you are right that it's probably "easier" to get in if you come from an excellent school district such as Stuyvesant or one of the ones found in the tony NYC suburbs. After all, colleges want students who are already prepared to do college-level work.</p>
<p>haha, funny that you should mention Great Neck because I'm a Great Neck South alum too ;) we usually have a handful of kids go to Cornell every year. My year we had about 5-7 kids (including transfers) and this incoming year has a little more.</p>
<p>Do they ever call it West Egg ?</p>
<p>Hahahahaha! Exactly.
LI is true prep. (I know first hand)</p>
<p>But ppl make the race/location admission thing too complex. Colleges are just looking to maximize their own stats because they are businesses, and they need too look sexy for US news and other rankings, as well as the naive consumors.
They just want to have good diversity numbers, look like theyre mechanisms of social mobility, and appear to be melting pots. At the same time, they want ppl from the top of their class who have high SAT scores to boost their selectivity factor. Did you know that colleges originally started considering ECs and essays more because they were trying to weed out the "grade-grubbing" jews who were overrepresented like asians? Well now asians are a big problem because they were silly enough to think that the true way to go in America is by working up the merits of joining lots of ECs, like the science club, and playing the viola, and doing "real" research (with their mentors). Colleges can't even use that part of the application to weed them out. Ha! People are under the impression that these activities must express their entire lives, that they have to be some sort of package. But it is all marketing and built up facades to conceal true and shallow intentions. It isnt as noble as it seems. These things never are...</p>
<p>wow.......deep</p>
<p>Summary, move to Wyoming or Idaho and have decent stats and you'll get into any school you want.</p>
<p>What I found really surprising was that, according to my ILR interviewer, there were only about 4 other applicants where I live that applied to ILR. I thought that was incredible (I know 'Industrial & Labor Relations' doesn't sound/have much curb appeal, but still...), but I didn't want to begin the interview with a bad start! Anyways, sorry that was kinda off topic... but does that statistic sound reasonable?!?</p>
<p>i wonder if i'm the only one from south east texas that applied and got in to ILR...odds are good for me i know at least 1 other texan...but he's from midland (just under the panhandle)</p>